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Valium vs Phenobarbital
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Just wondering what would be better if you have been taking xanax I need something diffrent and longer lasting and I don't want to take Clonazpam.  Thanks in advance
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(11-14-2015, 06:33 AM)Harley Wrote: In my opinion, Phenobarbital is a whole different animal, okay med, than Xanax, Valium and other Benzodiazepines.  It is rarely scripted and for the most part Dr's quit prescribing as, again, my opinion, a lot of people did not "respect" this drug.  It can kill you if you don't follow the rules.

I am somewhat jaded too, I admit, but I lost a few people I knew back in the day from taking it, forgetting they took a dose, take another, have a few shots, etc.,

It will knock you on your ass.

Just be very very careful.  I also would not trust an IOP to have the real deal.  

DcMcB, I just don't want you to go into the unknown.  If you've been there before then you should know the dangers.  Of course this is only my opinion.

I have been taking Benzos for a long time and I will not abuse them for the exact reason you just stated.  I however want something more longer acting and Clonazapam works but I was just wondering if maybe valium or even Phenobarbital would be better.  I have never tried the Phenobarbital but maybe I should just take Valium they are pretty close the half life of clonozepam I believe.
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#3
Be very careful with pheno it has a high toxicity level compare to benzos . You can take quiet a few benzos . Barbs pheno can cause coma and death its used in dignitas clinics .
Just my 2cent
be safe my friend
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#4
Vets use it to utinaze animals its nearly as strong as proprofonol.anesthetic
Barbs are not to be messed with . You will be most likely sold a sodium form as it so restricted . People travel the world to buy genuine pheno

@Dcmcb i think clonz or rivers would be better than pheno .you.ll be sold thiopentinol sodium.cause its so hard to get which is nearly as dangerous . Take the clonazepam
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#5
thank you all for your help I defiantly going to stay away from the phenal. I am going to try Valium now and then go from there.
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#6
Stay away from phenobarb, its a very dangerous drug.
The benzos with the longest half life (how long they will stay in your system) are valium and clonazepam. Try those
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#7
I was prescribed phenobarbital and it help a lot with the xanax withdrawal
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#8
Even the animals when Vet prescribing Phenobarb, Routinely blood test on its level have to perform. Liver and gall bladder enzyme panels should be monitored often. Stay away from it.
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#9
Several people from a cult committed mass suicide in the nineties taking phenobarbital, dangerous stuff.
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#10
Its extremly hardcore...i have been getting it 3 times in large doses for alcohol wd..and could neither Walk no sit..only sleep.. Had to go Down on doses over probaly a week or so and was given Resolid
After that. Its NOT something to use as vals..if i use Them its only for sleep and max. 30 mg.
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