"I want to be a sexless alien being; I want my outside to reflect how I feel on the inside."
Unfortunately, i have heard other young people say similar things when depressed. they felt alien and separate from this world. unlike other people.
Have they been subject to psychiatric evaluation first? They were 17 for first surgeries. Does he/she have parents?
Geeze, I don't even think people should have vasectomies in the event that they change their mind later.
But, I do see pink nail polish. Usually bespeaks more a woman's nature.
Morgan Freeman did a piece on we now have three genders: male, female and either transgender or no sexuality.
The times they are a-changing.
This man needs to re-think this. Read this article on what this man has to go through w/o a penis due to having had cancer. The penis isn't just for sex. And, men do need to urinate!
http://www.cracked.com/article_22462_6-t...moved.html
I hope doctors inform him of all the complications involved. This isn't just cosmetic surgery.
Sigh.
In case they remove the article, here it is. I'm sorry for the graphic words, but this man is telling his story and trying to keep a sense of humor about it, for which I admire him very much. 
6 Things I Learned Having My Penis Surgically Removed
There are a number of things that your stereotypical male never wants to hear over the course of his life, like "We're out of beer," "Your wife saw you," or "That 1975 Camaro you bought in high school is finally beyond repair." But none of those even come close to the horror of hearing a doctor diagnose cancer of the penis. Well, in 2009, that is exactly what happened to Alex Duke. The good news was that doctors caught it early enough to prevent the cancer from spreading throughout his body. The bad news was that it was advanced enough that there was only one option: cutting the poor member off.
Alex woke up from the surgery without cancer, but also without a penis. We sat down with him to ask about losing an enormous (metaphorically) part of his body, and he told us ...
6) Your Whole Personality Changes
As soon as I left the hospital (sans penis), I had hoped that my life would go back to normal, but six years later, I can say that it never did. In fact, within a few months of the surgery, everyone was telling me that I was pretty much an entirely different person. All of the changes to my personality can be traced back to my penectomy (isn't that just the worst word?)
Before the surgery I was talkative, confident, and really social. Afterwards? I felt like a second-rate member of society. People who get their penis removed deal with psychological trauma for years afterwards, and the fact that you can't get it back (more on that in a bit) only makes it worse. A lot of men have penis envy that revolves around being a size too small, but nobody tells you how to deal with Size Zero.
It got to the point where my low self-esteem began to affect the quality of my work, even though my job didn't involve using my dick in any way. It didn't matter -- I was suddenly the guy in the office who didn't talk to anyone, because I felt like a) no woman would want to talk to me, and b) that every man was "more of a man" than I was. Only when it's gone do you realize that from a very young age, males take an approach to life that boils down to, "Everything's going to be fine; I've got this penis here."
And then there was constantly dealing with how people find out, reliving that moment every time. Once, during a physical, the doctor was about to check me for a hernia (the "turn your head and cough" test). He had to double-check his charts -- he'd accidentally marked me down as a woman at the beginning of the physical (despite my beard and distinct lack of boobs). Finally, he saw my testicles and fixed the whole thing, even apologizing for thinking I was transgender.
It's probably hilarious if it happens in an Adam Sandler movie; not so much when it's screwing up your medical records.
5) Daily Tasks Get Much More Difficult
If you're a guy, you may or may not think too much about how your smaller head affects a lot of your day-to-day, non-sexual activities. After a penectomy, everyday tasks can have the potential to get way messier.
First off, you have to learn to pee all over again. Each penectomy is unique, due to where the penis is snipped off (I cringe just writing that), so there is no standard way to pee -- you have to experiment, and have towels handy. The male urethra is angled to go out in front, but with no penis, suddenly you've got a spray that's more like what you'd get from a busted water line. Urinals are no longer an option, unless you're practically dry-humping them. Sitting down is also rough, since with only the stub left, pee flies out at an angle that somehow manages to hit the back of the toilet. Eventually, I figured out a way by kneeling down at the right angle to pee "normally" into a standard toilet.
Even that isn't ideal, however. I had to talk to a manager at a restaurant once because from an employee's view of the stall, it looked like there was some sort of bizarrely quiet sex happening in there. Oddly enough, nobody ever doubts your claims of having no penis. When I asked that manager why he believed me so quickly, all he could say was, "I can't think of a reason you'd make that up."
It's not only urination, either. Sometimes showers become painful if the water gets too hot, because my netherworld is now very sensitive. After the surgery, I began using a partially unrolled condom to protect myself -- not from STDs, but from the stupid shower (I was able to stop after about six months).
Even dressing myself has become an issue. Thanks to the sensitivity of the stub, I have to wear pants that both a) give me enough room in the crotch and b) won't fall down. Tightness can also cause blood to rush to places I don't want it to, which leads us to how ...
4) Sex Gets Complicated
With a quarter-inch stem, I can still get erect and ejaculate, but due to the amputation, the lack of extra skin makes boners painful. And since I do have a wife, sex is still important. Not having sex would be unfair to her, and since we're monogamous, we decided against a sex surrogate. So we ended up doing couples shopping at a lesbian-oriented sex shop.
Those types of shops had the best range of artificial cocks, and the saleswoman noted how unusual it was to see men in there. After striking up a conversation as to which fake dicks worked best, she suggested a strap-on. The trick would be finding a way to get it on there so that I could both control the thing and not feel a lot of discomfort.
The lesbian sex shop employee actually gave me more help than my doctors did with this. After a fitting session in one of the back rooms, we found the solution: a strap-on that would center on top of the pubic bone, close to the belly button.
It's really sacrificing one type of pain for the other, but it's worth it for my wife. Thrusting is different when your temporary penis is three to four inches above where it's supposed to be, and it causes me some back pain. But in the long run, it's better than a sore dick, and it helps my marriage.
And speaking of pain ...
3) The Phantom Penis (Is Not A Star Wars Porn Parody)
A phantom limb is a condition in which someone who is missing a limb continues to feel it hanging around as if it were attached to the body. A lot of amputees will admit to feeling pain in the non-existent appendage. It turns out that my ex-penis has the same problem. Sometimes, it's something as simple as going to pee at a urinal, grabbing at air where my penis used to be, and sighing. Other times, it feels like it is there, but with a tingling sensation not unlike the feeling of your foot falling asleep.
But most often, I swear it's like it's still there because of the sharp pain.
One arm amputee I talked to prior to the surgery said his missing arm felt like it was constantly broken. I remember scoffing at the idea, but shortly after surgery, I woke up feeling like my penis had been tied up like a balloon animal. I went to the bathroom, looked down, and felt a painful throbbing in an area where there was to be no more throbbing, good or bad, ever again.
This happened a lot, but like most people who suffer from phantom limb, it gets better with time. The painful bursts still happen, but thankfully only a few times per year. Unfortunately, the "phantom" pain only gives way to real, actual pain, which is why ...
2) You Need Protection
Well, not condom-style protection. Ever notice how people will say "punched in the dick" and "punched in the balls" interchangeably? We probably shouldn't do that. Being punched in the penis is a whole other ballgame (excuse the pun) from being punched in the testicles.See, there's a bit of an evolutionary logic behind the positioning of our penis. Getting punched in the penis hurts somewhat less than getting punched in the balls, so having it lay on top of the testes provides a measure of protection -- a measure that I no longer have. Some men choose to put in a prosthetic to serve that purpose, but again, because my quarter-inch stub is super sensitive (and not in a good way), I can't use a prosthetic without a lot of discomfort.
When I visited the doctor about this, he said that the best option was a jockstrap and a protective cup like the ones athletes use. Ask any baseball player -- that little sonovabitch is going to chafe. And they don't have to wear one all day, every day.
I was effectively left with three shitty options: I could deal with semi-regular jock itch from the cup, I could wear the prosthetic and be uncomfortable all the time, or I could take the huge risk of testicular damage and not wear anything. I chose the cup, which also makes pants shopping even harder, unless my goal is to draw attention to my crotch (and it's not). Maybe codpieces will come back in style soon?
1) There Is No Way To Get My Penis Back
I'll be blunt here. Once the penis is gone, it's never going to come back. If you accidentally cut it off while making sushi in the nude, you have about 24 hours to get it stitched back on. But my kind of cancer made that impossible. If there is any cancer left hiding like a ninja in my nether-regions, it can spread to any new tissue that would get sewn in down there.
Penis transplants aren't an option, either. Even if I got the guarantee that I was cancer-free, there's only been one successful penis transplant ever, and it's still in the experimental phase. As any amputee will tell you, prosthetics are nowhere near the same thing, and I couldn't wear one anyway. Modern medicine doesn't like to get into penis-related things (especially replacements), the lone exception being helping old dudes get erect.
Phalloplasty is an option, but it's stupidly expensive, I'd need to disfigure another part of my body in order to get the necessary skin and tissue, and it would be just be an odd lump. Even if I got one, I wouldn't be able to feel anything due to the lack of nerves, and cancer could still wreck the thing.
So I had to make the choice between my dick and my life. It's not the best situation, but it did force me to realize that life is about more than boners, so there's that.
I believe any doctor willing to perform this surgery should make it mandatory that his patients first meet with men like this man, Alex.
Abigail
(03-02-2017, 07:03 PM)Charon Wrote: [ -> ]"I want to be a sexless alien being; I want my outside to reflect how I feel on the inside."
Unfortunately, i have heard other young people say similar things when depressed. they felt alien and separate from this world. unlike other people.
Have they been subject to psychiatric evaluation first? They were 17 for first surgeries. Does he/she have parents?
Geeze, I don't even think people should have vasectomies in the event that they change their mind later.
Generally you can reverse a vasectomy, but I know what you mean. I don't have tatoos or piercings because I don't want to be stuck with anything permanent (and I'm convinced tatoos will age really badly).
For someone who is transgender they would normally have
many psychological evaluations before anything happened. In the UK they would typically be expected to live as their desired gender for two years before surgery. I'm not so sure with this case because Vinny is very clear this isn't a "sex change" issue. It sounds like they've gone down the private cosmetic surgery route, but I'd be surprised if a surgeon removed their penis because of the issues with urination described in the other article (urinary tract infections would be far more likely, so arguably the surgeon would be doing harm). I'm aware there are certain websites that deal with heavy body modification, and people seem to have to go the DIY route for things as dramatic as this. I hope Vinny doesn't attempt that because it could be life-threatening.
Due to the area in which I work, I know a few transgender people with very different experiences. One, to use the cliche, felt like a woman trapped in a man's body. Therefore surgery and hormones, to a greater or lesser degree, fixed the issue (i.e. became a woman). Most of the time I didn't have too much trouble conceptualising her as female. There are people who don't want to change m2f/f2m, but don't really identify with either gender. So I know someone in their mid-20s who is "non-binary". They don't see themselves as male or female in a psychologically meaningful way. They are legally female, but that is a technicality for them. Obviously they realise the biological differences - they aren't stupid - I think it is more they don't like the societal expectations of male vs female. But no plans for surgery like Vinny!
The difference between the article and the people I've known, is that everyone I described would hate to be seen as alien. They desperately wanted to be accepted by other people for who they were.
well put, barq. thank u for sharing.
It makes me think of all the people that can not afford plastic surgery because of an accident.
Someone was reading this. Remember this guys? Forever ago. Hope he is okay.
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Update: LIFESTYLE
Vinny Ohh - Four pictures of a model who wants to look like a sexless alien
07 May 2019 - 10:06
BY CEBELIHLE BHENGU
Model Vinny Ohh has spent millions trying to change his looks.
Model Vinny Ohh has spent millions trying to change his looks.
Image: Instagram/Vinny Ohh
Forget wanting to look like Angelina Jolie or Kim Kardashian, 25-year-old model and make-up artist Vinny Ohh wants to not only look like an alien, but also wants to remove his genitals so that he is sexless. Vinny has been dominating news headlines for what has been regarded by many as "extreme quest to change who he is".
In 2017, The Sun reported that Ohh had already spoken to a number of surgeons, who have said he may experience complications if his genitalia is removed, but he remained adamant, saying that he wants to be left with just a "whole to pee out of".
Speaking to the publication, he said "my goal in regards to my look is to become an exact scientific proportioned sexless human being".
He said the sexual objectification in Los Angeles is also what pushed him to pursue the alien look because it's unattractive.
"I moved to LA at a very young age and everything here is always about sex appeal and when I think of alien, I think of ugly. Aliens don't really have gender, in my eyes at least."
Ohh has had 110 procedures and three surgeries so far. Here are pictures of the make-up artist.
hxxps://www.timeslive.co.za/sunday-times/lifestyle/2019-05-07-vinny-ohh-four-pictures-of-a-model-who-wants-to-look-like-a-sexless-alien/
tad bit extreme. Lord help us, wonder what he has done during the pandemic. Lots of time on his hands.
Yeah, you should. And while you are at it...
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