04-11-2017, 02:37 PM
04-12-2017, 08:49 PM
Not really sure about the question.
If you mean ur_ine test it depends on the quality of the test some can tell the difference between benzos-good blood test would know for sure. It would help to know what is the test is you should have the right to ask-some testing protocols are notorious for false positives.
If you mean ur_ine test it depends on the quality of the test some can tell the difference between benzos-good blood test would know for sure. It would help to know what is the test is you should have the right to ask-some testing protocols are notorious for false positives.
04-13-2017, 07:20 AM
They both show up as a benz on a urin to screen. If that's what your asking. I am prescribed vals and I take zans. Never been an issue for me for a tox screen. Though with the way my doctor has been acting I am hoping to just have any of the benz family on my active medicine list.
04-13-2017, 09:25 PM
(04-13-2017, 07:20 AM)solarpunch Wrote: [ -> ]They both show up as a benz on a urin to screen. If that's what your asking. I am prescribed vals and I take zans. Never been an issue for me for a tox screen. Though with the way my doctor has been acting I am hoping to just have any of the benz family on my active medicine list.
Thanks guys, I used to take Valium years ago when I was having attacks of rapid heartbeats that would send me to the ER - sometimes as high as 230 - nurse (or maybe a volunteer?) came out and told my husband I was in cardiac arrest. Anyway they worked on that. I am thinking I should have a few on hand.
04-13-2017, 09:37 PM
You should. But, also Inderal. My heart goes fast. Not as fast as that. I am often in fight or flight mode. Part of PTSD?
Inderal I would take to slow down my heart. Prescribed it for years.
But, every household needs emergency valium, codeine, antibiotics. Poor Ladybug.
Inderal I would take to slow down my heart. Prescribed it for years.
But, every household needs emergency valium, codeine, antibiotics. Poor Ladybug.
04-14-2017, 02:22 PM
Wow a 230 heart rate that is up there. I have been as high as 200 and thought I was going to pass out. I have been taking metoprolol for about a year and a half with good results would much rather be taking some valium but good luck getting a DR. to give me those.
04-15-2017, 02:21 AM
(04-11-2017, 02:37 PM)Ladybug Wrote: [ -> ]both are benez - will UT show them differently ? Thanks.
It depends on who is doing the urine, and what test package they subscribe to.
For example a job will generally only do a 5 panel- cocaine, thc, opiates, pcp, amphetamines.
My methadone clinic just does general benzos so for example, I'm rx'd klonopin but it doesn't matter if I take xanax valium ativan or what have you- its just benzo positive.
A friend at another clinic says they distinguish different benzos- he's rx'd xanax, but if he took klonopin they would know the difference and nail him for illicit use.
04-15-2017, 03:13 AM
Hi LadyBug,
I would say it depends on the test. I had to take a UT for a job once that involved working with the elderly. They didn't even test for benzos. Anyway, on a "routine" test, they would just show up the same; as a benzo.
Abigail
Charon,
I am often in fight or flight mode, too. I also take Propranolol.
I have PTSD and I also have a heavy dose of fear on an almost constant basis. It is not an "unknown" fear; I know what the fears are. And they ARE going to happen, so it isn't like I can say "Oh, most fears don't even happen." All I can do is pray for strength when they do happen.
PTSD and fight or flight mode are not only extremely mentally exhausting, but they take quite a toll on our bodies physically as well, draining them of what little energy we had.
Sigh. Sometimes I feel like a race car smack dab in the very front of the line...with an empty gas tank. And the race is going to start in just a few seconds.
Abigail
I would say it depends on the test. I had to take a UT for a job once that involved working with the elderly. They didn't even test for benzos. Anyway, on a "routine" test, they would just show up the same; as a benzo.
Abigail

Charon,
I am often in fight or flight mode, too. I also take Propranolol.
I have PTSD and I also have a heavy dose of fear on an almost constant basis. It is not an "unknown" fear; I know what the fears are. And they ARE going to happen, so it isn't like I can say "Oh, most fears don't even happen." All I can do is pray for strength when they do happen.
PTSD and fight or flight mode are not only extremely mentally exhausting, but they take quite a toll on our bodies physically as well, draining them of what little energy we had.

Sigh. Sometimes I feel like a race car smack dab in the very front of the line...with an empty gas tank. And the race is going to start in just a few seconds.
Abigail

04-15-2017, 01:30 PM
(04-13-2017, 09:37 PM)Charon Wrote: [ -> ]You should. But, also Inderal. My heart goes fast. Not as fast as that. I am often in fight or flight mode. Part of PTSD?
Inderal I would take to slow down my heart. Prescribed it for years.
But, every household needs emergency valium, codeine, antibiotics. Poor Ladybug.
Oh yes, I take metoprolol - which I think is close to Inderal - also for years, and since 2013 when I was diagnosed with Pulmonary Hypertension they have added Norvasc - a beta blocker but not for the BP, that is fine, but it also works for PAH in my case. I am blessed because of all PAH patients, only about 2% respond to that drug, most have to go stronger meds for PAH. I have so many hills to climb in my life, yet GOD has always shown me the answer and where to go - so I shouldn't complain. I am climbing another hill right now which I will share when the time is right - so glad I have such supportive friends.
(04-15-2017, 01:30 PM)Ladybug Wrote: [ -> ](04-13-2017, 09:37 PM)Charon Wrote: [ -> ]You should. But, also Inderal. My heart goes fast. Not as fast as that. I am often in fight or flight mode. Part of PTSD?
Inderal I would take to slow down my heart. Prescribed it for years.
But, every household needs emergency valium, codeine, antibiotics. Poor Ladybug.
Oh yes, I take metoprolol - which I think is close to Inderal - also for years, and since 2013 when I was diagnosed with Pulmonary Hypertension they have added Norvasc - a beta blocker but not for the BP, that is fine, but it also works for PAH in my case. I am blessed because of all PAH patients, only about 2% respond to that drug, most have to go stronger meds for PAH. I have so many hills to climb in my life, yet GOD has always shown me the answer and where to go - so I shouldn't complain. I am climbing another hill right now which I will share when the time is right - so glad I have such supportive friends.
06-19-2017, 10:02 PM
(04-13-2017, 09:37 PM)Charon Wrote: [ -> ]You should. But, also Inderal. My heart goes fast. Not as fast as that. I am often in fight or flight mode. Part of PTSD?
Inderal I would take to slow down my heart. Prescribed it for years.
But, every household needs emergency valium, codeine, antibiotics. Poor Ladybug.
Hey - do you think that Indereal helps with panic attacks?
I always think it is a state of mind rather than the physiology of a faster heart beat...