There is one certain medication that makes me feel like the productive, clear thinking and motivated individual I would recon myself ought to be. However, this medication is a p@inkiller. Tramad@l to be exact. I have tried SSRIs, SNRIs, benz@s, supplements, PKs, and all of them have some sort of motivating effect, for a while. Then it seems by body gets used to them and I go back to my unmotivated malaised self. However, tram, for whatever reason, helps my motivation, mood and energy. I even feel more creative.
The long short: I don’t really care for the other effects it has and since it is a PK, I don’t wanna take it for my mood.
Why the heck does this fairly weak PK have such a profound effect on my motivation, and is there something out there like it(thats not a pk) that would target the part of me that struggles with motivation/malaise? Maybe there is and I haven't found it yet?
I def have GAD from PTS(d) events from my 20s. My shrink and I have determined that. But I don’t care for the cloudiness daily benz@ use gives me. Just wanna feel motivated to do my daily responsibilities.
(Also you can tell by the scrambled post that I may have some ADHD as well?)
I guess tram has documented anti-depressant effects, as well as opioid activity. Truth be told, opioids are definitely a cure for depression, as they certainly give much joy in being alive after being deprived of them for long enough. Kicking trams is supposed to be especially nasty as they exhibit some of the wd effects of anti Ds, apparently.
Seems like it wasnt that long ago you could order bucketloads of soma and trams, fedexed to your door in 24 hours. I guess both are now what, schedule 5?
Both are schedule IV
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I remember when they were unscheduled totally. Back when Drs and Nurse Practitioners could hand out bags of sample packs with no script. Thats how I first discovered Ultr@m.
I notice if/when I take tram, even if for one day, the next day or so I am zapped of positive emotion and motivation. Also full of malaise. So usually its not worth it to me unless I have a heavy work day while struggling with my sciatic nerve issue. Pain all the way to my toes and not being able to get myself dressed kinda changes my mind on what I will and will not take.
There is an antidepressant with a similar chemical structure - Effexor or generic venlafaxine. You can take a look at that.
However, it is extremely hard to quit taking.
Good luck. I am not a medical expert, but I have taken both and read reviews. I am not necessarily recommending this.
Maybe I should clarify why I don’t recommend Effexor - I have taken them 15 years and tried several times to quit.
Really bad w/d so I will probably take them the rest of my life.
(02-09-2023, 04:37 AM)TheBigGreenBastard Wrote: [ -> ]I remember when they were unscheduled totally. Back when Drs and Nurse Practitioners could hand out bags of sample packs with no script. Thats how I first discovered Ultr@m.
I notice if/when I take tram, even if for one day, the next day or so I am zapped of positive emotion and motivation. Also full of malaise. So usually its not worth it to me unless I have a heavy work day while struggling with my sciatic nerve issue. Pain all the way to my toes and not being able to get myself dressed kinda changes my mind on what I will and will not take.
Admittedly I know very little about tram, I believe I had a doctor use them to wean me off of the harder stuff after I broke my elbow, sternum, and 6 ribs when the air bag in my Audi went off (and probably saved my life). I know from shopping there seems to be some variety in the compounds available. Can you find the compound that works best for you and carefully administer to yourself. I know this if frowned upon, but if the quality of life increases enough, might this be worth exploring at least? Again, I know very little about this med, so forgive me if I am unaware of a problem with this course of treatment. My only interest here is in you finding relief.
(02-12-2023, 08:02 PM)willie33 Wrote: [ -> ]There is an antidepressant with a similar chemical structure - Effexor or generic venlafaxine. You can take a look at that.
However, it is extremely hard to quit taking.
Good luck. I am not a medical expert, but I have taken both and read reviews. I am not necessarily recommending this.
I actually tried taking these at one point. I felt freaking weird and crazy. Very much like a zombie. On the inside I was having emotional and mental turmoil. On the outside I was like a vanilla wafer. I have never responded well to snris or ssris. Not sure why. They all make me feel mentally unstable.
(02-14-2023, 12:18 AM)Apple Wrote: [ -> ] (02-09-2023, 04:37 AM)TheBigGreenBastard Wrote: [ -> ]I remember when they were unscheduled totally. Back when Drs and Nurse Practitioners could hand out bags of sample packs with no script. Thats how I first discovered Ultr@m.
I notice if/when I take tram, even if for one day, the next day or so I am zapped of positive emotion and motivation. Also full of malaise. So usually its not worth it to me unless I have a heavy work day while struggling with my sciatic nerve issue. Pain all the way to my toes and not being able to get myself dressed kinda changes my mind on what I will and will not take.
Admittedly I know very little about tram, I believe I had a doctor use them to wean me off of the harder stuff after I broke my elbow, sternum, and 6 ribs when the air bag in my Audi went off (and probably saved my life). I know from shopping there seems to be some variety in the compounds available. Can you find the compound that works best for you and carefully administer to yourself. I know this if frowned upon, but if the quality of life increases enough, might this be worth exploring at least? Again, I know very little about this med, so forgive me if I am unaware of a problem with this course of treatment. My only interest here is in you finding relief.
I have been tolerant of my ups and downs especially after trying several compounds and none of them helping. I certainly wouldn’t be against giving it another try but probably not this season of life. I’m pretty high up in a company, have a fam, other responsibilities and I would prefer life to slow a bit before trying another compound. It just throws a wrench in everything for a bit.
I see what you are saying though about administering it myself. Its possible the reason it makes me feel so crazy and weird is because my doc always started me on too high a dose instead of easing me up. Maybe I could try a liquid solution or something.