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Benzo long term success stories?
#21
id guess it could be interpreted two ways how long it stays in your system to be detected, or closer one that most mean is how fast effects peak/ fade.

alp- would be fast acting but because of that it would have short half life - smth in terms of 1-4 hours from start to peak and rapid decline.

diaz would be more like 5-10 hrs (prob a bit longer) so it takes longer to kick in but last longer thus leaves system slower, and you dont get rapid decline.

if i had to choose think clonaz has best of both worlds strong kicker and long half life.

but as saying goes everyone is different. Numbers above used just to show comparison which shouldn't be hard to pull of the net for any group of B@nzos to get a better picture.
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#22
(03-27-2019, 11:45 AM)magnet1153 Wrote: Would someone kindly explain what "half life" means as used to describe various benzos?  I've come across it in other threads and don't quite understand.

Off the www...........half life is:

"A medication's biological half-life refers simply to how long it takes for half of the dose to be metabolized and eliminated from the bloodstream. Or, put another way, the half-life of a drug is the time it takes for it to be reduced by half..............."

hope that helps.....


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#23
(03-21-2019, 11:33 PM)Mountain07 Wrote: What's the slowest release Benz0 out there? I've struggled with anxiety for many years, tried quite a few things and would be great to find something that acts gradually. Saw diazepam is slow but anything less noticable?

I think that clonazepam . It have a half life of 30/40 hours . Diazepam is even slower ( 100 hours ) but don't have the anti anxiety properties like Clona.
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(04-01-2019, 02:33 AM)maddy Wrote: Wow, how much does it vary for each individual!?! I know I don't have anything near a "standard" or "typical" biologic response to many of these, klons seem to last for about 4-6 hours, diaz about 8 hours, and most other benzs don't seem to have any noticeable effect at all. And then there are the similar ones that I get a terrible negative reaction, like halz (makes me hallucinate and can't breathe properly, so No-No-Nope.) I think it's VERY important to track your own physiological reaction to any med, they might not be the same for you as is typical, and there's no real way to tell before you are RX'd something. A good/great MD is a very good thing to have available to you, if possible.

Thanks for all the replies on this, much appreciated! I guess the effects vary from person to person. Thinking about it as a 2-3 week help to get going again, I'm struggling to get out and function again after a really low spell and sleep properly again. Mood has slightly improved but didn't realise how bad anxiety had got in the background. Can be super active, want to get back to that so being zonked is something I'd like to avoid. Extremely difficult to communicate this to my Dr too! 2mg diazepam sounds a great idea.

Thank you again for your help.

(03-31-2019, 04:02 PM)killingstress Wrote:
(03-21-2019, 11:33 PM)Mountain07 Wrote: What's the slowest release Benz0 out there? I've struggled with anxiety for many years, tried quite a few things and would be great to find something that acts gradually. Saw diazepam is slow but anything less noticable?

I think that clonazepam . It have a half life of 30/40 hours . Diazepam is even slower ( 100 hours ) but don't have the anti anxiety properties like Clona.
Thanks for reply, posted more detailed below but will check that out.  Smile
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#25
Well everyone, its been roughly 5 months since I started this thread and I've been on benzos constantly ever since. I try to stick with diazepam as much as possible. Occasionally switching between 10-20mg per night. At the beginning they helped massively as in being more social and "normal" around people, and I can still feel when they are in my system, but its nowhere near the sense of freedom and peace as in the beginning. The physical sense of anxiety itself is still much lower, but other stress levels and depression are mostly right back to where they were before I started. I'll eventually taper off but I'm not ready because of too many deep down personal stressors that I'm not ready to deal with in the withdrawal/tapering state. I guess its really gonna vary person to person and what sort of situation in life is actually causing the "anxiety". Good to see my thread still going strong though and to hear everyones experiences so far.
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#26
I'm curious how many here are actually scripted bnz0s? I've never actually gotten a script for any of them. I've suffered anxiety, depression and insomnia--and diagnosed from professionals as such. I have to beg for a zolp script every time (which is supposedly not physically addictive) and have had to switch doctors even to get it. Land of the "free" yet we aren't smart enough to choose which medications might help us have a quality of life. Where do we place the line?
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(03-29-2019, 10:13 PM)cmdline Wrote: id guess it could be interpreted two ways how long it stays in your system to be detected, or closer one that most mean is how fast effects peak/ fade.

alp- would be fast acting but because of that it would have short half life - smth in terms of 1-4 hours from start to peak and rapid decline.

diaz would be more like 5-10 hrs (prob a bit longer) so it takes longer to kick in but last longer thus leaves system slower, and you dont get rapid decline.

if i had to choose think clonaz has best of both worlds strong kicker and long half life.

but as saying goes everyone is different. Numbers above used just to show comparison which shouldn't be hard to pull of the net for any group of B@nzos to get a better picture.
That makes perfect sense!  Thank you, cmdline.  You explained it in simple, straightforward terms, and I appreciate it.

(04-04-2019, 09:07 AM)MrFussbudget Wrote: I'm curious how many here are actually scripted bnz0s?  I've never actually gotten a script for any of them.  I've suffered anxiety, depression and insomnia--and diagnosed from professionals as such.  I have to beg for a zolp script every time (which is supposedly not physically addictive) and have had to switch doctors even to get it.  Land of the "free" yet we aren't smart enough to choose which medications might help us have a quality of life.  Where do we place the line?

My pcp scripts 2 mg alps to me and has for a few years.  They work wonders for me, but because I am well aware of dependency issues with others, I am very careful how I take them.  I have also been scripted lora.  I do think he is one of the few who will script these.  He usually scripts 90 at a time (alps) to be taken 2-3 x daily.  I know better, so I rarely take more than 1 a day, although some days are "worse" than others.  On my last refill, I only got 60 (with the same dosing frequency), so I asked him if that was a mistake.  He replied that it was not; he was starting to "wean" me off them.  That news brought on a terrible panic attack.  Like you, MrFussbudget, I have daily anxiety, depression, and insomnia, but I've never abused them.  I live in a state that has been in the news for a while for its crackdown on opiods and the opioid "crisis."  I suspect that's what is pushing him to take me off them.  I decided to do some research, and after getting burned once, I was lucky enough to find this forum and become a member.  I hope you are finding all you need here.   Smile
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#28
Wow, thank you for your very candid and thoughtful response. I was very curious, and I have an upcoming yearly physical. With the crackdown I suspect that docs rarely start anyone on benz0s anymore.
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#29
Unfortunately that was the case with me too when i tried to go to a new dr. after a move. They would not give me my "normal" scripts that i had been on for years. i was told "we don't know you from adam" so lesson learned i go back to my normal dr even if his office is far from my home.
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(04-04-2019, 04:58 AM)seeker47 Wrote: Well everyone, its been roughly 5 months since I started this thread and I've been on benzos constantly ever since. I try to stick with diazepam as much as possible. Occasionally switching between 10-20mg per night. At the beginning they helped massively as in being more social and "normal" around people, and I can still feel when they are in my system, but its nowhere near the sense of freedom and peace as in the beginning. The physical sense of anxiety itself is still much lower, but other stress levels and depression are mostly right back to where they were before I started. I'll eventually taper off but I'm not ready because of too many deep down personal stressors that I'm not ready to deal with in the withdrawal/tapering state. I guess its really gonna vary person to person and what sort of situation in life is actually causing the "anxiety". Good to see my thread still going strong though and to hear everyones experiences so far.

Thanks for posting up your experience, really appreciate it. Its interesting you've felt the effects wearing off. Understand that feeling of freedom and peace your after, that's what I feel I need. Socialising at times is a big source of anxiety for me, so just being able to relax a bit would be a blessing. 

Hope you've had a good day today!

(03-27-2019, 10:28 AM)barq- Wrote:
(03-21-2019, 11:33 PM)Mountain07 Wrote: What's the slowest release Benz0 out there? I've struggled with anxiety for many years, tried quite a few things and would be great to find something that acts gradually. Saw diazepam is slow but anything less noticable?

Hi Mountain,

Not sure if any benzos come in modified release form in your country? But regardless, diaz is the go-to among approved medications for long half life (which is why so many people use it for tapering down). It is a complicated medication because it has active metabolites, so it isn't just the half life of the diazepam (although that is the main factor).

I suppose some of those research chemicals had long half lives. I was going to say phenazepam, based on those stories of people getting the powder, taking too much, and waking up three weeks later to discover all the crazy shit they'd done. But it's half life isn't that long (less than a day) and counting the metabolites 2-3 days.

Diaz is available in 2mg tablets, so I guess you could ask to be scripted those in order to take the lowest amount possible.

Good luck!

Thank you!
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