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I wrote u an apology letter, tyler. I owe u one.

Because u had the two posts, i assumed. And I made an ass of myself.

thank you for being so kind.

(05-11-2016, 09:31 PM)Charon Wrote: [ -> ]I wrote u an apology letter, tyler.  I owe u one.

Because u had the two posts, i assumed.  And I made an ass of myself.

thank you for being so kind.

That's OK.  It's nice to see someone stand up for their friends as fiercely as you do.  That's probably one of the reasons everybody is so well behaved on this forum compared to many forums where threads usually turn into verbal warfare by the second page.

Thank you for the awesome attitude.  Yes, I scare the hell outta people.

But, I shall defend u all.  You all become my family and friends.

I think you guys need a group hug. Well handled by all. Nice to see people take responsibility and act like adults. Nice role modeling guys!!!

oh, i missed u rumor. GROUP HUG WITH RUMOR (((GROUP HUG)))

Thank you, Charon. Work has me buried. I am not an attorney, as yourself. But I spent all day yesterday being deposed by an ambulance chaser attorney. What a friggin' headache. And so unethical to take advantage of his client at his most vulnerable and making unrealistic promises. It really upsets me. I know you were never like that. It is those kind of attorneys that give a very honorable profession a really bad reputation to the average person. Sad.

Be well, Charon, Rumor.

i know. My father and i had trouble because so many attorneys we knew, in our town, lost their licenses for inappropriate conduct. felonies. My father died knowing the legal profession was corrupt. We tried to sue judges to get rights for our clients. We were never allowed.

So, I detest what happened to the profession. I am so sorry u had to deal with that nonsense rumor.

Rude, pushy people whom think they are god half the time. So sorry. Feel better.

I have found that the "right" insomnia med. is a trial and error kind of thing. I am fortunate that my doc prescribes me halcion, no questions asked. It does not put me to sleep but I usually get about 4 hours of good sleep with it and some melatonin. A friend of mine also takes halcion and is asleep within 15 minutes, but has to take trazadone to stay asleep. She can sleep like 7-9 hours. Doc's Ivedal generic ambien is pretty good for those that are successful with ambien. Temezepam, does nothing for me, even the jellies. Restoril is also a big fat zero for me. Because halcion has a short half life if I wake up at 2am and cannot get back to sleep, I can take a half of another halcion and do not feel hung over the next day. But that is my body chemistry. YMMV. Having tried the ambien cr last year, I think my expectations were too high. I just want to be able to sleep thru the nite.

I think my natural body clock prefers being awake at night and asleep during the day. Fortunately or unfortunately, I have to work during the day. Benedryl and all the other otc stuff gives me horrible headaches and hangovers.

When I have back and/or neck muscle spasms, taking some Wallace soma at bedtime has also helped too. No hangover, which is great. I am just too light of a sleeper and anytime I actually sleep through the night is a gift.

I gave up all caffeine and try to be very careful with what I eat and when. Sometimes a favorite snack though, something light, just before bedtime will also help.

I just keep experimenting trying to find the holy grail of a night of solid sleep. Thank you everyone for sharing what works for you. I have never tried the phenibut, but I am going to read up about it to see if it might be something for me to try. All the best, R.

I have used a Zolpidem for years and it still works great..but if i have Real troubel ill use 15 mg of phenobarbital at the same time.. Then i get 8 h straight.

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