I found it hard to believe.
He let his anger rage. And, now everyone is mentioning his sniffling. One critic says its hay fever. But most whom gave an opinion on wash. post, thought he was abusing a substance.
I noted Hillary, when waiting for trump to stop talking, seemed to be ready to pass out.
Maybe Trump did not realize both faces would be visible at all times.
i am not political. I did give up when all the votes from my county were stolen.
But, anyone else watch? What say ye?
Lord I was bored last night so I turned it on.
I personally can not fathom either of these people running our country!!!
I agree with both of you Charon and Audrey - the "nose" thing could be either/or!!
His avoiding a direct answer to numerous issues made it seem like he was not prepared at all for the debate, while Hillary seemed to be on her game!
Don't know if I will even take the time to vote this year!
And I agree, poor Lester Holt - he practically needed a stun gun!
Slick
don't worry. ur dead relatives and maybe u with a stolen ID may be voting for one side or the other for ya this year, slick.
i mean, how did all the more conservative votes get stolen in an upscale community when i did try to vote?
rigged. it was atrocious to watch. yes, hillary is reasonable on cam. has much experience. but, many of us recall many a person whom died under mysterious conditions under her husbands reign.
i cannot trust either of them.
Oh, lets just put that anthony weiner sicko on the ballet. at least he lets it all hang out so to speak. no secrets with him but for secrets to his wife.
I wish mayor juliani, our hero from 9 11, were available.
sighs.
see, i don't do politics. i never heard bad about rudy. i was already bedridden and sleeping all the time when 9 11 occurred. Reasons unknown, i awakened that day. (maybe after i got son off to school?) and i called my three older sisters. Rite at the beginning.
I respected Rudy from just those times as NY cried for so many.
So, never knew any of that. Trump also? Men whom marry trophy wives, as billy joel did for example, are more likely to cheat on them. The rat bastards.
so many felt trump would change our world. let us all live in one of his houses or something.
nope. He is still so self involved and pompous, he still does not get it.
At least one can take hillary into public. Not so with trump.
I hear he was holding the podium so tightly he made his knuckles white or red. forget which. but she got to him by calling him Donald to start. And, it got worse cuz he is so used to putting down a woman for looks.
I was a very early feminist. But, it does not mean I just want any female in office.
We have such little choice here. Well, the electoral college. But, after watching that, I am more horrified than ever with that loose canon in the white house.
Let us know. (oh, rudy was battling i believe it was prostate cancer after 9 11, i believe, and that is why he never ran. But again, I just hear snippets of news. Just as i know the majority of the legal profession is corrupt, I know the majority of politicians are corrupt. humble opinion and all.)
I couldn't get the feed and don't watch tv. Hillary is a total fake, in favor of invading syria, in favor of the tpp horrible trade agreement, she is a hawk and pushed invading lybia, wanted to invade iran, talks hatred toward russia. She is nice to saudi arabia since they treat women and others so well /sarcasm. Oh and they paid her over $25 million in "donations" to her foundation. No one has a problem with that? The body count too is horrendous, as Charon briefly alluded to.
Hill is a corporate shill, has monsanto people on her team, takes their money, is in favor of gmo's. Most of the money she got, lightly laundered through her foundation, came from corporations and foreign governments. They are the ones she has to pay back when she gets in just as obama has done for nearly 8 years.
Trump is a loud mouth, says whatever pops into his head. However, he got most of his campaign donations in small amounts from little people like you and I, not giant corporations or foreign countries. Much like bernie sanders was doing. He says he will carefully look over trade agreements before signing or enforcing them, hill says she is in favor of them period. Oh, btw, we are not allowed to know what is in the tpp and other trade agreements done without our knowledge. You trust hill on that? Why?
Hillary can barely walk, needs people to support her constantly, lies constantly. Her "pneumonia" was cured in a matter of a couple hours according to her. The fastest recovery in medical history, everyone else needs weeks or months to recover if they ever do. You would rather have a liar, war hawk, and corporate sellout than a loud mouth who is trying to do the right thing? Why, because you don't like his personality?
You could write a book on the many hillary scandals, lies, and crimes. They would range from whitewater, rose law firm to libya, getting favors for big donors while sec of state, had secret and top secret emails on her private server against all rules, laws and procedures exposing our secrets to any hacker or foreign govt who wants them. She knows nothing about business.
I just have one last comment. How many of us got a "FEW" million dollars to get started in Life???
Damn bank must of stolen Mine!!! ROTFL
Have a Trumpy/Hill Day!!!! (That sounds goofey - but I'm gonna let it stand!!!
Slick
What I must have missed that memo. Rats. Maybe that is the spam mail trying to tell me i have uncollected monies in some wacko bank somewhere.
Show the proof, please. We are all grownups here, we can discuss things civilly. Everything I said about hill was true. I have posted links and documentation. What is it you don't believe? That she lies constantly? Lol, that one is a gimme. That she pushed the libya invasion? That she takes huge donations via clinton foundation from giant multinational and foreign governments like saudi arabia? All that has been documented. That she claimed to be fine after collapsing at an event from so called pneumonia? There are photos of her coming out of her daughters house saying she was "fine" within hours of the "pneumonia" attack. Which of that don't you believe? I will promptly dig up and repost the links and proof. Her doctor said it was pneumonia so that must be true, right? Or else he says what he is told to say and we can't believe him either. Since when has anyone recovered that quickly from genuine pneumonia? Or what was it really?
Or don't you believe she is in favor of the tpp and that its kept secret from us? Or that trump wants to review it carefully to make sure it protects our workers rather than giant companies? Tell me what you think is wrong?
Or you don't believe she kept a private server to hide emails against the law? That is pretty much public knowledge. Or that she blamed russia for the hack that revealed more emails and the dnc dirty tricks? I forgot to mention how she cheated sanders out of the nomination. You call that playing fair?
Trump has said some stupid things, I never said he was great. His wall is a good idea and not racist at all. Isreal and many countries have walls, we have one most of the way across, he wants it all the way across. What is racist about that? He is not a great choice but hillary is a terrible choice. Why do you want someone who is so crooked and lies constantly? Don't you think if the tpp was good for us they would reveal what is in it? Do you sign contracts without ever reading them? We can not go on with crooked business as usual for another 4 to 8 years.
I enjoyed the debate last night. Much less helter skelter than the earlier primary circus. I didn't notice the sniffling, I'm always, like Lester, trying to make out possible answers to the questions being posed.
I thought Hillary "won" the debate, mainly by controlling herself and the tempo. She also gave straighter answers on more questions to me, agreement or not. I laughed because I did notice Donald say "ugh" a couple of times when he was constrained by the protocol to stay quiet and Hillary was jabbing him.
For the first time as an older guy I'm abdicating my privilege to vote this year. What if you all did this? I don't know, won't happen, straw argument.
Hillary is a career pol inculcated with a political mentality. That's just how Donald got his quick start out of the blocks. Career politicians are creatures of compromise and crossed fingers. Though I believe neither candidate to be the Great Satan.
I was for Donald for about two weeks at the beginning. His impromptu caricatures of persons with physical disabilities took him out of contention for me, regardless of what followed. I would not have a president who would do that.
But, to the point, I believe Hillary took it last night.
Gran, no fight here, but if you didn't watch the debate you might visit the NPR site and their current politics forum. I lurk there often. You will find impassioned people like yourself there, they are fervent, and they are heavyweights and would welcome your input.
Giulani, as a crusading U.S. attorney was instrumental in enforcing portions of the RICO act to indict members of organized crime, and that is his ongoing contribution to the judicial system, thousands being indicted since who would have gone un-prosecuted. I agree with Audry, Lester, and Hillary, "frisk and search" was found to be unconstitutional, a dog that can not be allowed to hunt, and the measure of constitutionality is not a purely pragmatic one.
Anyway, though I've always voted except this year, like C, I don't believe politics can solve our situation.
Spankster