Like all the previous wisdom imparted in this thread, keratom is schedule one because it does a darn good job of replacing subs. And how much has been made off of subs?
So now, subs can be weened to Kratom and the government found out? I wonder how many dollar signs they saw?
So, I saw concern over ordering keratom, if you ordered it now while it's legal can you still face trouble ahead? I'm honestly asking as I don't know.
As far as uses- red strains mostly good for pain(but green Bali is the best)
White and green strains-mostly an energy boost. Waaaaay more than a cup of coffee.
As far as lacing Keaton, it's just not logistical. The cost of the PKs to lace the kratom would be way higher than the leaf.
Hep C and shingles. We are all at risk now they say. No one said a word ten yrs ago.
And, all medical roads lead to humira. On weediquette, a boy was prescribed MMJ for chrons disease. He could not handle the med nor the shots. But, MMJ helped him. Until his family could not afford to live in a legal state.
Humira is such a serious medicine. It surely did not help a poor friend I had with RA. But, why is it being suggested for every illness?
Don't trust the medical profession. And, why is it that so many people whom need meds cannot afford them now? The multi billion dollar drug industry will help them with meds. Its payment plans? Omg.
(11-16-2016, 04:11 PM)Charon Wrote: [ -> ]Hep C and shingles. We are all at risk now they say. No one said a word ten yrs ago.
And, all medical roads lead to humira. On weediquette, a boy was prescribed MMJ for chrons disease. He could not handle the med nor the shots. But, MMJ helped him. Until his family could not afford to live in a legal state.
Humira is such a serious medicine. It surely did not help a poor friend I had with RA. But, why is it being suggested for every illness?
Don't trust the medical profession. And, why is it that so many people whom need meds cannot afford them now? The multi billion dollar drug industry will help them with meds. Its payment plans? Omg.
I don't buy all of these pushes for us to be vaccinated against this and that. I believe it's just another government and Big Pharma tactic to grab our money while pumpin' us full of unnecessary and dangerous crap that will only end up making us sicker or dead.
Lots of people think that a conspiracy theory that's been goin' around for yrs. about government "population control" is a lot of bull. Well, just look at how many "conspiracy theories" have now come true. Do you really want to take the chance with your life? These people don't give a rats azz about our health and would be VERY happy if a lot of us would just die. The fewer of us around, the easier it is to control us, and isn't that exactly what they want? Total control.
People better start paying close attention to what's goin' on in this country instead of saying, "oh, this wouldn't happen in America". HA! We're already well into it.
I shake my head in disbelief everytime I see people goin' in for ANY vaccinations. We have to understand that we have been taken over by some extremely evil people that want it all for themselves. They'd kill their mothers for a stick of gum if it helped their cause.
I BEG all of you, my family, DO NOT fall for this. They are slowly murdering millions who's families will never know why they died.
Cricket (and I definitely approve this message)
For God's sake, JUST SAY NO!
Yes give back power to the people. We ve got the power. To change , to vote, to influence , to push hard political parties and the press to defend the right to natural medicines like kratom and canabis . Industry wants to eliminate natural medicines since they want people to spend their savings for legit drugs. They want to ban now kratom and maybe they want to purify the natural alkaloids like Corynantheidine: μ -opioid antagonist,Isomitraphylline: Immunostimulant, anti-leukemic.: Immunostimulant
Isorhynchophylline: Immunostimulant. < 1% of total alkaloid content found in Kratom leaf.
Isospeciofoline: < 1% of total alkaloid content found in Kratom leaf.
Mitraciliatine: < 1% of total alkaloid content found in Kratom leaf.
Mitragynine: Indole alkaloid. Analgesic, antitussive, antidiarrheal, adrenergic, antimalarial,
Mitraphylline: Oxindole alkaloid. Vasodilator, antihypertensive, muscle relaxer, diuretic, antiamnesic, anti-leukemic, possible immunostimulant. <1% of total alkaloid contents in Kratom leaf.
Paynantheine: Indole alkaloid. Smooth muscle relaxer. 8.6% to 9% of total alkaloid contents in Kratom leaf.
Rhynchophylline: Vasodilator, antihypertensive, calcium channel blocker,
antiaggregant, anti-inflammatory, antipyretic, anti-arrhythmic, antithelmintic. < 1% of tot
See what I mean ? It as a power natural drug they want to eliminate it because they will have much money lost from Rx drugs. They want to place patents on its incedidents and sell it in pharmacies so they will not tolerate a cheap matural medicine for the masses.
(11-16-2016, 08:57 PM)nickolyko Wrote: [ -> ]Yes give back power to the people. We ve got the power. To change , to vote, to influence , to push hard political parties and the press to defend the right to natural medicines like kratom and canabis . Industry wants to eliminate natural medicines since they want people to spend their savings for legit drugs. They want to ban now kratom and maybe they want to purify the natural alkaloids like Corynantheidine: μ -opioid antagonist,Isomitraphylline: Immunostimulant, anti-leukemic.: Immunostimulant
Isorhynchophylline: Immunostimulant. < 1% of total alkaloid content found in Kratom leaf.
Isospeciofoline: < 1% of total alkaloid content found in Kratom leaf.
Mitraciliatine: < 1% of total alkaloid content found in Kratom leaf.
Mitragynine: Indole alkaloid. Analgesic, antitussive, antidiarrheal, adrenergic, antimalarial,
Mitraphylline: Oxindole alkaloid. Vasodilator, antihypertensive, muscle relaxer, diuretic, antiamnesic, anti-leukemic, possible immunostimulant. <1% of total alkaloid contents in Kratom leaf.
Paynantheine: Indole alkaloid. Smooth muscle relaxer. 8.6% to 9% of total alkaloid contents in Kratom leaf.
Rhynchophylline: Vasodilator, antihypertensive, calcium channel blocker,
antiaggregant, anti-inflammatory, antipyretic, anti-arrhythmic, antithelmintic. < 1% of tot
See what I mean ? It as a power natural drug they want to eliminate it because they will have much money lost from Rx drugs. They want to place patents on its incedidents and sell it in pharmacies so they will not tolerate a cheap matural medicine for the masses.
Unfortunately, I have to differ on OUR power to make changes. It's too far gone I'm afraid. Besides, what good does it do to expect anything better when the 2 choices we get are not worthy of the job. Either way we get screwed and that's the way it's planned. They always cover all the bases to make sure their agenda keeps on goin'.
I fear that the ONLY CHANCE (a very small chance) that we would have to get this country back would be a very bloody revolution. But, what ya gonna do against the vast amounts of hi tech weapons they have? It would be like fighting with a BB gun against a nuke.
Sorry for all the gloom and doom, but it is what it is.
Cricket
(11-16-2016, 09:43 PM)Cricket Wrote: [ -> ] (11-16-2016, 08:57 PM)nickolyko Wrote: [ -> ]Yes give back power to the people. We ve got the power. To change , to vote, to influence , to push hard political parties and the press to defend the right to natural medicines like kratom and canabis . Industry wants to eliminate natural medicines since they want people to spend their savings for legit drugs. They want to ban now kratom and maybe they want to purify the natural alkaloids like Corynantheidine: μ -opioid antagonist,Isomitraphylline: Immunostimulant, anti-leukemic.: Immunostimulant
Isorhynchophylline: Immunostimulant. < 1% of total alkaloid content found in Kratom leaf.
Isospeciofoline: < 1% of total alkaloid content found in Kratom leaf.
Mitraciliatine: < 1% of total alkaloid content found in Kratom leaf.
Mitragynine: Indole alkaloid. Analgesic, antitussive, antidiarrheal, adrenergic, antimalarial,
Mitraphylline: Oxindole alkaloid. Vasodilator, antihypertensive, muscle relaxer, diuretic, antiamnesic, anti-leukemic, possible immunostimulant. <1% of total alkaloid contents in Kratom leaf.
Paynantheine: Indole alkaloid. Smooth muscle relaxer. 8.6% to 9% of total alkaloid contents in Kratom leaf.
Rhynchophylline: Vasodilator, antihypertensive, calcium channel blocker,
antiaggregant, anti-inflammatory, antipyretic, anti-arrhythmic, antithelmintic. < 1% of tot
See what I mean ? It as a power natural drug they want to eliminate it because they will have much money lost from Rx drugs. They want to place patents on its incedidents and sell it in pharmacies so they will not tolerate a cheap matural medicine for the masses.
Unfortunately, I have to differ on OUR power to make changes. It's too far gone I'm afraid. Besides, what good does it do to expect anything better when the 2 choices we get are not worthy of the job. Either way we get screwed and that's the way it's planned. They always cover all the bases to make sure their agenda keeps on goin'.
I fear that the ONLY CHANCE (a very small chance) that we would have to get this country back would be a very bloody revolution. But, what ya gonna do against the vast amounts of hi tech weapons they have? It would be like fighting with a BB gun against a nuke.
Sorry for all the gloom and doom, but it is what it is.
Cricket
Love the response Cricket. If the government wants to ban kr@ they will do it. If Rx lobbyists want it banned it will be. The "people" will not stop that. We live under the guise of democracy. That being said this is a specific med that should not be banned. I've read many interesting articles on the positive effects. But I've also heard there can be dependency issues. I "hate" dependency as its something that has effected my life greatly. Is there a wonder med to stop withdrawals?
I know that I used this stuff for quite awhile and it worked wonders!! Now that it is banned in my state as well i can no longer get it and it definitely sucks not being able to get it!! Its too bad because the stuff actually works very well for pain, just another way for the large pharmacies to make money!!!
If I'm not mistaken, the DEA is set to make a new announcement about this tomorrow... is that right?
It is my understanding they are still taking responses. Anyone else hear anything?
OR
(11-16-2016, 08:07 PM)Cricket Wrote: [ -> ]I don't buy all of these pushes for us to be vaccinated against this and that. I believe it's just another government and Big Pharma tactic to grab our money while pumpin' us full of unnecessary and dangerous crap that will only end up making us sicker or dead.
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I think the biggest red flag for unnecessary drugs is advertising. When I see a TV commercial with some masculine guy doing manly things, or a butterfly carrying someone off to sleep... to advertise a drug, I'm always skeptical. Shouldn't our medical choices be based on tested science and fit to our personal medical needs, not some sensationalized advertising b.s. that has no bearing on reality? But back on topic: I tossed out my mang da on the day before the ban was supposed to start, and have been too uncertain about getting more. I hope they will just decide that it is allowed.