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switching up benzos
#21
(01-24-2018, 09:21 PM)OldBoy Wrote: I've switched back and forth countless times, and settled on good old Di@aepam.

I have had the same experience after getting in over my head with etiz.  The taper was very manageable!
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#22
Alternating different products in the same class seems to help with tolerance. I have had the most success with the big 3 Kpn,Atv and alp and even better results when rotating. However anything is better than nothing and even and old school med such as pbarb can help with a taper. When it comes to a full blown panic attack nothing beats an Alp in my opinion. In the end it is whatever works best for you as were All unique and that's a good thing.
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#23
Anyone here try to replace Benzos for Baclofen ?
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#24
(05-10-2018, 03:22 AM)Costro77 Wrote: Sometimes its better to live with the fact that you will need low dose benzos (best switching , each situation needs the most suitable benzo) for the rest of life, than suffer or try to stop completly. I think the benzos got more bad reputation than they deserve. And this is fueled by the most famous anti benzo Ashton doctor. I think they are life saving. But be moderate in the dosage. If you dont increase above therapeutic dose, you will be OK. Dont get scared by the anti benzo propaganda and hysteria. Many doctors refuse prescribe them, but i think the stress will do more harm to you than a small dose of benzos.

think you are right, what i find with ashtons manual idea thats its almost 40 50 years old, same old practice keep lowering dosage, its no brainer to figure that one out really, but seems no one is willing to touch this field and any press on benzos is always negative, by design benzos are highly safe as its almost impossible to OD on them, even largest dose will put one down for sleep, but its easily counteracted. Since most cases involve alcohol which is major catalyst and then some A class drugs that usually will do most harm with alcohol, but media likes bashing oh benzos was used , dont see out cry when thousands each day die from alcohol, but once celeb and benzo its epidemic Undecided .

Anyway drifted off topic, i find being on long lasting benzos is way to go, i do switch to alps when needed but long term diaz ativan if not mistaken the long lasting ones are way to go.Since found that being on short acting week or two in you spiral out where dosage wears off in few hours, and intake keeps climbing unlike with long lasting ones it usually declines or stabilizes at some point where you feel normal and dont get any side effects, if you miss dose or two.
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#25
Ok so I’m about 2 days into my switch from Xanax to klonopin and not really liking it. I took 1mg at night the first 2 nights and it took forever to kick in, plus the next day during daytime I was still getting anxiety and could barely feel anything working. So today I took .5mg in the morning and all it did was make me feel really tired and confused. Found this strange because it didn’t make me tired when I took 1mg at nighttime. Feels like I’m generally not as happy on this stuff as the Xanax. Do you guys think it’s will get better with time?
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#26
I can lower my tolerance to alp by going straight to Diaz or klon. I prefer klon bc of the shorter half life and less accumulation of metabolites.

Once 6 mg alp/day feels just okay I will start with 2mg klon/day for about 4-5 days. Take one full day off supplementing with curcumin, l-theanine, and melatonin. After this I’m back down to 2 mg/day of alp and that is plenty. Sometimes if I have enough Diaz or klon still in my system I may take 2-3 days off if possible before switching back. I’ve never had any w/d under these doses or conditions even though I’m still taking less klon or Diaz based on the ‘equivalency’ chart.
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