09-19-2019, 05:34 PM
I feel very conflicted reading many of the threads here, in particular, the public subsection of “who’s got it” (I do not yet have access to private areas of the site so I can’t speak to the nature of the discourse in that area), however, there appears to be a pretty distinct dichotomy at play in this public area of the forum:
It’s either a totally innocent request regarding a non-controlled medication of almost any kind (antibiotics, blood pressure meds, anti-fungals etc.) asking for sources/feedback in that regard. These individuals are usually met with a number of helpful replies (that I can see publicly, at least) and generally kind words, for having used this section of the public forum as intended. OR, contrastingly, it’s a member with either very few posts, or one that has already been banned by the time I actually read the thread (usually banned specially because of what they were repeatedly asking for, irrespective of their rank or the forum’s rules about asking for sources/PMs regarding “rare breeds”. In these instances, I almost don’t have to scroll down to even see Charon, Icewizard, Admin of Steel, etc. laying into them for violating not just one or two rules - more like half of the entire guidelines.
Now I don’t wanna be a hypocrite, because I know I’ve already made some (hopefully) minor mistakes. I posted one or two too many replies in a 24 hour period by mistake & I'm still embarrassed. Also I think may have used a curse word or two by force of habit, etc., but I always try to think at least some about a topic before I speak, as well as am starting to learn mimic the type of language and way that people go about speaking+referencing subjects, without drawing unnecessary attention or creating posts that make the forum look bad, or making any of the more senior members uncomfortable. No one is perfect, especially not the chronically ill members that makeup the core of this community - we are all human beings, but I think ones intent & motivation has a tremendous influence on how they come across to others, and whether or not they belong as a member in this small community.
Do I have questions that I would like to put forward to the community? Subjects and details
I would like to share for the potential benefit of others? Information/resources that I am interested in exploring? Of course! Why else would I be here? That being said, I recognize that at this point my account has so few posts and so little reputation that asking any of the above questions publicly (or even sending PMs to senior members, assuming I was even able to do that) that I am not entitled or verified enough by the community to be asking or putting fourth any of the above.
So when I see others do this (click on virtually any thread under the public section of “who’s got it” that is specifically regarding a “rare breed” of some sort) I just cringe a little bit to myself, because I know what the overwhelming response of “NO” is going to be. Those of you who are admins or even longtime members sure do have to repeat themselves quite often...
Not only does it accomplish nothing to try to “push ahead” as fast as possible to either unlock more private posts, or berate/guilt those who already have access to sending PMs, etc., it makes the community as a whole feel less safe, more guarded, and more apt to put in place even higher requirements to access the private section(s) of the site where some more serious discourse is no doubt taking place among trusted members (again, I don’t know what exactly, but I’m sure I’ll find out when I get there).
In a perfect world I would tell anyone who needed to know the information/resources that I have access to, and vice verse, but that is just not how things work, especially not in 2019. As much as these safeguards are a direct hinderance to myself, and many others in need, I am sure, one has to assess the situation logically and realize that in to retain the quality and trust among the top tier members/vendors, and keep this forum such a valuable resource to those who need it, some degree of inconvenience/patience must be had for those who are new to the fold, I can’t think of any other way to go about it, and I can’t understand why others still start threads asking directly for things that are enormous red flags to us and to LE alike.
To those of you who are new like myself, understand that nothing worthwhile comes easily or overnight. Just based on the feedback and comments I have witnessed from the moderators of this forum thus far, those who embrace the system rather than trying to circumvent it seem to ultimately receive all of the help, guidance, and information that they are in need of. Anyone more experienced than myself, feel free to edit/correct me or give your own opinion on said situation. Anyway, I know I ramble a lot but I just felt like after reading a number of threads in this section, that some people need to re-examine their attitude if they want the privilege of yall’s collective knowledge and wisdom from this community.
Best wishes to all of you, have a great afternoon,
-Samson
It’s either a totally innocent request regarding a non-controlled medication of almost any kind (antibiotics, blood pressure meds, anti-fungals etc.) asking for sources/feedback in that regard. These individuals are usually met with a number of helpful replies (that I can see publicly, at least) and generally kind words, for having used this section of the public forum as intended. OR, contrastingly, it’s a member with either very few posts, or one that has already been banned by the time I actually read the thread (usually banned specially because of what they were repeatedly asking for, irrespective of their rank or the forum’s rules about asking for sources/PMs regarding “rare breeds”. In these instances, I almost don’t have to scroll down to even see Charon, Icewizard, Admin of Steel, etc. laying into them for violating not just one or two rules - more like half of the entire guidelines.
Now I don’t wanna be a hypocrite, because I know I’ve already made some (hopefully) minor mistakes. I posted one or two too many replies in a 24 hour period by mistake & I'm still embarrassed. Also I think may have used a curse word or two by force of habit, etc., but I always try to think at least some about a topic before I speak, as well as am starting to learn mimic the type of language and way that people go about speaking+referencing subjects, without drawing unnecessary attention or creating posts that make the forum look bad, or making any of the more senior members uncomfortable. No one is perfect, especially not the chronically ill members that makeup the core of this community - we are all human beings, but I think ones intent & motivation has a tremendous influence on how they come across to others, and whether or not they belong as a member in this small community.
Do I have questions that I would like to put forward to the community? Subjects and details
I would like to share for the potential benefit of others? Information/resources that I am interested in exploring? Of course! Why else would I be here? That being said, I recognize that at this point my account has so few posts and so little reputation that asking any of the above questions publicly (or even sending PMs to senior members, assuming I was even able to do that) that I am not entitled or verified enough by the community to be asking or putting fourth any of the above.
So when I see others do this (click on virtually any thread under the public section of “who’s got it” that is specifically regarding a “rare breed” of some sort) I just cringe a little bit to myself, because I know what the overwhelming response of “NO” is going to be. Those of you who are admins or even longtime members sure do have to repeat themselves quite often...
Not only does it accomplish nothing to try to “push ahead” as fast as possible to either unlock more private posts, or berate/guilt those who already have access to sending PMs, etc., it makes the community as a whole feel less safe, more guarded, and more apt to put in place even higher requirements to access the private section(s) of the site where some more serious discourse is no doubt taking place among trusted members (again, I don’t know what exactly, but I’m sure I’ll find out when I get there).
In a perfect world I would tell anyone who needed to know the information/resources that I have access to, and vice verse, but that is just not how things work, especially not in 2019. As much as these safeguards are a direct hinderance to myself, and many others in need, I am sure, one has to assess the situation logically and realize that in to retain the quality and trust among the top tier members/vendors, and keep this forum such a valuable resource to those who need it, some degree of inconvenience/patience must be had for those who are new to the fold, I can’t think of any other way to go about it, and I can’t understand why others still start threads asking directly for things that are enormous red flags to us and to LE alike.
To those of you who are new like myself, understand that nothing worthwhile comes easily or overnight. Just based on the feedback and comments I have witnessed from the moderators of this forum thus far, those who embrace the system rather than trying to circumvent it seem to ultimately receive all of the help, guidance, and information that they are in need of. Anyone more experienced than myself, feel free to edit/correct me or give your own opinion on said situation. Anyway, I know I ramble a lot but I just felt like after reading a number of threads in this section, that some people need to re-examine their attitude if they want the privilege of yall’s collective knowledge and wisdom from this community.
Best wishes to all of you, have a great afternoon,
-Samson
