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The Purpose of Sleep? To Forget, Scientists Say
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this is interesting......

I need sleep.......

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The Purpose of Sleep? To Forget, Scientists Say
Carl Zimmer
FEB. 2, 2017

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Over the years, scientists have come up with a lot of ideas about why we sleep.
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Some have argued that it’s a way to save energy. Others have suggested that slumber provides an opportunity to clear away the brain’s cellular waste. 


Still others have proposed that sleep simply forces animals to lie still, letting them hide from predators.

A pair of papers published on Thursday in the journal Science offer evidence for another notion: We sleep to forget some of the things we learn each day.


In order to learn, we have to grow connections, or synapses, between the neurons in our brains. These connections enable neurons to send signals to one another quickly and efficiently. We store new memories in these networks.


In 2003, Giulio Tononi and Chiara Cirelli, biologists at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, proposed that synapses grew so exuberantly during the day that our brain circuits got “noisy.”


 When we sleep, the scientists argued, our brains pare back the connections to lift the signal over the noise.
In the years since, Dr. Tononi and Dr. Cirelli, along with other researchers, have found a great deal of indirect evidence to support the so-called synaptic homeostasis hypothesis.

It turns out, for example, that neurons can prune their synapses — at least in a dish. In laboratory experiments on clumps of neurons, scientists can give them a drug that spurs them to grow extra synapses. Afterward, the neurons pare back some of the growth.


Other evidence comes from the electric waves released by the brain. During deep sleep, the waves slow down. Dr. Tononi and Dr. Cirelli have argued that shrinking synapses produce this change.


Four years ago, Dr. Tononi and Dr. Cirelli got a chance to test their theory by looking at the synapses themselves. They acquired a kind of deli slicer for brain tissue, which they used to shave ultrathin sheets from a mouse’s brain.
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Luisa de Vivo, an assistant scientist working in their lab, led a painstaking survey of tissue taken from mice, some awake and others asleep. She and her colleagues determined the size and shape of 6,920 synapses in total.
The synapses in the brains of sleeping mice, they found, were 18 percent smaller than in awake ones. “That there’s such a big change over all is surprising,” Dr. Tononi said.[/color]

The second study was led by Graham H. Diering, a postdoctoral researcher at Johns Hopkins University. Dr. Diering and his colleagues set out to explore the synaptic homeostasis hypothesis by studying the proteins in mouse brains. “I’m really coming at it from this nuts-and-bolts place,” Dr. Diering said.


In one experiment, Dr. Diering and his colleagues created a tiny window through which they could peer into mouse brains. Then he and his colleagues added a chemical that lit up a surface protein on brain synapses.


Looking through the window, they found that the number of surface proteins dropped during sleep. That decline is what you would expect if the synapses were shrinking.


Dr. Diering and his colleagues then searched for the molecular trigger for this change. They found that hundreds of proteins increase or decrease inside of synapses during the night. But one protein in particular, called Homer1A, stood out.


In earlier experiments on neurons in a dish, Homer1A proved to be important for paring back synapses. Dr. Diering wondered if it was important in sleep, too.


To find out, he and his colleagues studied mice genetically engineered so that they couldn’t make Homer1A proteins. These mice slept like ordinary mice, but their synapses didn’t change their proteins like the ones in ordinary mice.


Dr. Diering’s research suggests that sleepiness triggers neurons to make Homer1A and ship it into their synapses. When sleep arrives, Homer1A turns on the pruning machinery.


To see how this pruning machinery affects learning, the scientists gave regular mice a memory test. They put the animals in a room where they got a mild electric shock if they walked over one section of the floor.


That night, the scientists injected a chemical into the brains of some of the mice. The chemical had been shown to block neurons in dishes from pruning their synapses.


The next day, the scientists put all the mice back in the chamber they had been in before. Both groups of mice spent much of the time frozen, fearfully recalling the shock.


But when the researchers put the mice in a different chamber, they saw a big difference. The ordinary mice sniffed around curiously. The mice that had been prevented from pruning their brain synapses during sleep, on the other hand, froze once again.


Dr. Diering thinks that the injected mice couldn’t narrow their memories down to the particular chamber where they had gotten the shock. Without nighttime pruning, their memories ended up fuzzy.


In their own experiment, Dr. Tononi and his colleagues found that the pruning didn’t strike every neuron. A fifth of the synapses were unchanged. It’s possible that these synapses encode well-established memories that shouldn’t be tampered with.


“You can forget in a smart way,” Dr. Tononi said.


Other researchers cautioned that the new findings weren’t definitive proof of the synaptic homeostasis hypothesis.


Marcos G. Frank, a sleep researcher at Washington State University in Spokane, said that it could be hard to tell whether changes to the brain at night were caused by sleep or by the biological clock. “It’s a general problem in the field,” he said.


Markus H. Schmidt, of the Ohio Sleep Medicine Institute, said that while the brain might prune synapses during sleep, he questioned whether this was the main explanation for why sleep exists.


“The work is great,” he said of the new studies, “but the question is, is this a function of sleep or is it the function?”


Many organs, not just the brain, seem to function differently during sleep, Dr. Schmidt pointed out. The gut appears to make many new cells, for example.


Dr. Tononi said that the new findings should prompt a look at what current sleeping drugs do in the brain. While they may be good at making people sleepy, it’s also possible that they may interfere with the pruning required for forming memories.


“You may actually work against yourself,” Dr. Tononi said.
In the future, sleep medicines might precisely target the molecules involved in sleep, ensuring that synapses get properly pruned.


“Once you know a little bit of what happens at the ground-truth level, you can get a better idea of what to do for therapy,” Dr. Tononi said.
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#2
This is really interesting Linville. I need more sleep for sure...LOL
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#3
Really interesting article! I wonder if there is any connection between people with intense photographic memories and insomnia?
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#4
I'd say so if the article is right on it premise then it might be harder to cause the kind to forget if it has the memory you suggest.

Hmmm

Lots of thoughts on this one isn't there?
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#5
Despite having had a major and two minor strokes, and brain trauma, i still have most of my photographic memory.

It is one way i remember so many of you guys and gals for all these years. I recall screen names, avatars, emails. And a ton of nonsense that one learns in 25 years of academia.

But, No, I do not have a problem with insomnia. I believe in controlling my thoughst not vice versa. I turn off my thinking, and, i love to think, when I feel it is time for my body and mind to rest. And, as corny as it sounds, I do let go of my problems, and let God.

However, so that i don't awaken at four or five am to pray everyday, I do take a benadryl when i am going to sleep. I listen to a TV show that is mostly words. Investigation ID. But, one has to have been into law to not be horrified with that station.

And, I refuse to allow negative thoughts or troublesome thoughts to emerge whilst I am calming down to sleep. Granted, it can take years to be able to do that.

But, I am absolutely weird on every aspect of my nature and my lifestyle. It works for me, mostly!

I am sure there may be physical reasons why people cannot sleep. But, mostly I have heard about people whom cannot stop the continuing thoughts and worries that try to destroy one's sleep. So, I don't allow such thoughts. Allegedly, we can even program our dreams by our thoughts before we attempt to sleep.

If you have the photographic memory, take it under submission to you. Only allow thoughts that will one: help u to compartmentalize what occurred that day. Come up with possibilities or must do's for following day. And, then, find a happy place. And just refuse to allow negative or overwhelming thoughts to penetrate therein.

But, again, I did go without sleep for most of my years in the academic world. Becoming a minister at about aged forty has certainly helped me to control my thoughts.

I know this is not everyone's answer. It works for me. Good quesiton and i am sure we all have differing views on this.
Angel  It is Well with My Soul  Angel
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#6
Charon, I really appreciate what you have written and I agree with you. I wish I was better at compartmentalizing my thoughts.

Lately I've been struggling with a breakup. Overwhelming sad thoughts are swirling (especially late at night.) It's hard to focus on the positive when you feel alone. I know this pain is temporary. I have friends and family, but I live alone now and it's not the same. I miss the companionship of a partner.

I know I'm very lucky to have no physical issues at all--I'm healthy. I have read enough topics on this board to know that is a real blessing in this forum. Many here are suffering chronic pain and I can't imagine how difficult that must be. My pain is just emotional right now.

Anyway, It's good to read positive posts like yours, Charon. Thank you and hope all is well with you.

~Fuss
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No, it is not the same at all. I am very sorry. I never thought life would end up being quite so difficult.

If you would ever like to talk with me, just mention it, and i shall send u my email.

Hang in there. (I lost my spouse at aged 53. He was dead within one minute on Easter 2007. We have a son. Due to my illnesses, my newfound poverty after late husband usurped my law practice and inheritance as attorney for estate of my parents, its been a way to get my son into both a top college, and then also, free, into cornell university. He devices robotic medical devices for disabled as his mom is. But, it is hell to be on one's own so suddenly. My heart and prayers are with you, my friend.)
Angel  It is Well with My Soul  Angel
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#8
Interesting thread. I heard that the brain washes itself when we sleep. It gets rid of toxins. Benzos affect my sleep badly: I get about 3 hours in the afternoon and 2-3 at night. Sad
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(02-05-2017, 07:09 PM)Charon Wrote: No, it is not the same at all.  I am very sorry.  I never thought life would end up being quite so difficult.

If you would ever like to talk with me, just mention it, and i shall send u my email.

Hang in there.  (I lost my spouse at aged 53.  He was dead within one minute on Easter 2007.  We have a son.  Due to my illnesses, my newfound poverty after late husband usurped my law practice and inheritance as attorney for estate of my parents, its been a way to get my son into both a top college, and then also, free, into cornell university. He devices robotic medical devices for disabled as his mom is.  But, it is hell to be on one's own so suddenly.  My heart and prayers are with you, my friend.)

Thanks Charon.  I might take you up on that.  I can't imagine losing a spouse.  But how wonderful that you have such an accomplished son!  Smile
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#10
Woah. Great article. Thanks for the share, Linville! I've been a severe chronic insomniac since I was a small child, but my doctor suspects that this is due to my circadian rhythm being way off- so my body, for some reason, just doesn't know it needs to sleep until around 120 hours have passed, whereas most people's bodies naturally get tired approximately every 18 hours, give or take a few. So that has its own unique set of challenges... and I had read a study somewhere about how you should sleep right after studying, because apparently it helps convert short- to long-term memories, but this seems to focus more on how your brain is actively working to put memories in context, with the rats that /hadn't/ managed their sleep task (for lack of a better word) not knowing what the chamber was that had hurt them.

I'm tempted to draw parallel to the deep-seeded paranoia that starts to seep in somewhere around day 4... I wonder if that has anything to do with my brain just not being able to properly filter out stimuli?

Anybody have any clue how your brain /knows/ what to trash? THAT trips me out to think about sometimes: what have i done, said, thought, or lived that I have NO IDEA of? Weeeeeeird.
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