We must be making a small wave at the very least!

[IceWizard]

True ... How true...

Anything worth having is worth the wait and/or work to get it... We have an excellent forum here... Look I not trying to pat us on the back... On second thought yes.. Yes I am... What is trying to be accomplished here is more than commendable, it is in some cases the very last resort and to cater to cheats, liars and scammers, like others have been known to do, is downright horrible.... Some already have great suffering with no help from drs because of the big bad guv-mint we have elected ... So they seek help online... Many do not have computer savey, they fumble around, run across what they believe is legit sites, only to be taken advantage of... That's sad indeed...

That's what sets us apart from all the rest... You can believe what we say here... Depend on the vendors we have ... Get that illusive relief we all seek....

Thank God for our Admin and Mods for setting this place up and holding on to that very concept ...

Ice