12-31-2015, 08:37 PM
Wow, thanks Phobiartz for all the great info. I guess I've got some experimentation to do.
My diet is pretty good. Low to almost no sweets and I drink almost a gallon of water a day. Although I was using caffeine regularly for more years than not and am currently weening myself off. Today I used 50mg in the morning, via green tea extract.(Honestly there is a very good likelihood that this will solve my problem and in that case forgive me for wasting everyone's time.)
So, when you said, "What I have found, that by combining a few extracts, tonics and some teas. And changing it up every other night, that I got a good thing going." was that with respect to the kava? Have you figured out a way to get reliable results with this plant?
What does "How often do you void" mean?
Most nights I have have no problem falling asleep, it's staying asleep and sleeping deep enough to complete a full sleep cycle in order to wake feeling rested that is the challenge.
Natural is preferred because I do care about what I put into my body, but at this point I just want sleep. It would be nice to know that I've exhausted all my options before settling on a relationship with a synthetic compound as a permanent fix. But I'm not too keen on this idea and I think if I found something synthetic that worked I would not use it everyday and would instead create a schedule, alternating it with natural things, so as to minimize side effects and tolerance for both.
I have found some things that work. Phenibut, I know it's not natural but it hands down works the best. On it sleep is sound and restful, usually only waking once during the night. But the body developes a tolerance to this compound quickly and there are mild WDs, like sleeplessness ironically, to consider. So I use it irregularly, saving it for times that I need to wake early and work an extra long day.
The other thing that I've found works well(not great, but good enough) is actually a proprietary blend containing several of the items you mentioned.
calcium 40mg
mag 30mg
Valerian 100mg
Chamomile 75mg
Hops 75mg
Skullcap 75mg
L-Taurine 50mg
Passonflower 50mg
GABA 25mg
melatonin 3mg
But I have to take four to five of them before they help. Now that I think about it, I've never looked it up and am only assuming that amount is safe because it's natural. Actually until I sat down and wrote this, I thought the serving size was two caps but it's in fact one. Haha I thought I was only taking twice as much as the rec dose, but I've been taking 4-5 times as much. Jeeze
I've also tried benzos, and though they induce good sleep I don't like how I feel the next day. Like not as alive and vibrant as normal if that makes any sense. So they are not really an option. Ambien has worked, but since I only had a couple to try, I can't be sure it wasn't a fluke.
My diet is pretty good. Low to almost no sweets and I drink almost a gallon of water a day. Although I was using caffeine regularly for more years than not and am currently weening myself off. Today I used 50mg in the morning, via green tea extract.(Honestly there is a very good likelihood that this will solve my problem and in that case forgive me for wasting everyone's time.)
So, when you said, "What I have found, that by combining a few extracts, tonics and some teas. And changing it up every other night, that I got a good thing going." was that with respect to the kava? Have you figured out a way to get reliable results with this plant?
What does "How often do you void" mean?
Most nights I have have no problem falling asleep, it's staying asleep and sleeping deep enough to complete a full sleep cycle in order to wake feeling rested that is the challenge.
Natural is preferred because I do care about what I put into my body, but at this point I just want sleep. It would be nice to know that I've exhausted all my options before settling on a relationship with a synthetic compound as a permanent fix. But I'm not too keen on this idea and I think if I found something synthetic that worked I would not use it everyday and would instead create a schedule, alternating it with natural things, so as to minimize side effects and tolerance for both.
I have found some things that work. Phenibut, I know it's not natural but it hands down works the best. On it sleep is sound and restful, usually only waking once during the night. But the body developes a tolerance to this compound quickly and there are mild WDs, like sleeplessness ironically, to consider. So I use it irregularly, saving it for times that I need to wake early and work an extra long day.
The other thing that I've found works well(not great, but good enough) is actually a proprietary blend containing several of the items you mentioned.
calcium 40mg
mag 30mg
Valerian 100mg
Chamomile 75mg
Hops 75mg
Skullcap 75mg
L-Taurine 50mg
Passonflower 50mg
GABA 25mg
melatonin 3mg
But I have to take four to five of them before they help. Now that I think about it, I've never looked it up and am only assuming that amount is safe because it's natural. Actually until I sat down and wrote this, I thought the serving size was two caps but it's in fact one. Haha I thought I was only taking twice as much as the rec dose, but I've been taking 4-5 times as much. Jeeze
I've also tried benzos, and though they induce good sleep I don't like how I feel the next day. Like not as alive and vibrant as normal if that makes any sense. So they are not really an option. Ambien has worked, but since I only had a couple to try, I can't be sure it wasn't a fluke.