(05-20-2016, 10:13 PM)Rumor Wrote: A benzo that is also used for sleep, is halcion. It has a reasonably short half life, so you may not sleep as long as you want to, but I have never woken up groggy, either. I believe I mentioned in another thread that I have a friend who has issues with both falling asleep and staying asleep. They take .25mg of halcion and 50 or 100mg of trazadone, which many doctors will prescribe and is fairly inexpensive. I certainly don't have the credentials of Bowser, but for most of us it is a trial and error process to find the correct product(s), in the correct dosage and possibly combination. Rumor
I agree and debated as to whether or not I should include it. I decided against it because I honestly prefer to stay away from recommending short acting benzos just as a general rule. As far as my personal and those of the people close to me, I find that a single large dose on a regular/somewhat regular basis is far, FAR less likely to result in total dependency than multiple small doses. That's why I went so far as to recommend phenazepam. As I said before, I don't particularly like RC benzos but I suppose phen doesn't really even count ad an RC.
I'd also like to say (somewhat unrelated) that my school of thought differs from most of my peers and superiors in this field. I go on personal experience and anecdotes and things of that nature because I don't often trust the validity of medical studies, particularly regarding addiction and dependency. Hell, most American doctors don't really consider there to be a difference in the two. Either way, my point is this: if I were to search for and post a study linking frequent small dosage vs infrequent moderate dosage stating that the former was more likely to lead to dependence and/or addiction, I could find a study stating the exact opposite with another quick search and then a third stating the risks are, for all intents and purposes, identical.
Essentially I try to stay as objective as possible but seeing as I am not all-knowing I sometimes lose a bit of objectivity and meander off into the land of opinion which I now see I have done there. Thank you for pointing that out and I'll try to keep opinions to a minimum from here on out.
As a continuance of my ramblings, though, I do feel obligated to express my concerns regarding triazolam.
1) an established and well documented problem past the first 4-5 hours of sleep. If you happen to wake up in this frame, chances are you're staying awake, like it or not.
2) rebound insomnia. Generally triazolam is prescribed for around 2 weeks. Usually around day 17 after beginning of treatment, rebound insomnia tends to pop up. This is in a notable amount of patients, enough to make me apprehensive about recommending it to anyone.
3) if you suffer from anxiety in your day to day life, youre going to have a bad time unless you have an established daytime routine med-wise. There is a notable increase in every day anxiety in most people taking triazolam. I can vouch for this and also the rebound insomnia though I personally never had problems with wakefulness, my insomnia has always been rooted in my ability to stop my thoughts from racing as soon as my eyes closed.
Anyway, for anyone that's sticking with me through these bloated posts, I appreciate and admire your dedication to learning (possibly learning is probably a more accurate statement) from the ramblings of an online weirdo. Have a great weekend, everyone!
ETA: Trazodone is indeed an option as well, Rumor, thank you for bringing that up as well. My only problem with traz is the grogginess in the morning. That traz hangover... just awful. My ex also used to be on traz and developed bed wetting problems and eventually had to be put on desmopressin to stop that but itherwise I can't say I have much to say about it on the negative side. Just be careful if you're allergic to tricyclic antidepressants.

