05-28-2016, 04:46 AM
Hey, Raven!
Thanks for the kind words. Honestly, I just enjoy helping where I can. Sometimes I ramble but I'll eventually get to where I'm going ahahaha. Too many people have entered and left my life (usually unexpectedly) due to pharmaceutical complications and I figure hey, I learn new things every day so why not put at least some food for thought out there for people who only have "SWIM" sites for answers and would like a bit more. I was actually in the same position as you a while back. You are correct in your assumption of lack of sympathy but you can expect at least a bit of ass-covering if the past couple of years are any indication.
To elaborate slightly: I was on 2mg klonopin 3x daily for GAD, insomnia and agoraphobia. I knew nothing of benzos at the time, just that the klonopin fixed everything my SSRI didn't. I now know the doctor was a well known pill pusher and I believe is now in prison but that's something else entirely. Anyway, I lost the job that gave me insurance that I was able to visit Dr. Pusher with. I ended up going into what started my background in pharmaceuticals with a less than reputable company and having some kind of garbage insurance that allowed me only the finest in sleazy, back alley physicians allowed to practice here. First few months were fine. Then out of nowhere Dr. Clueless informs me "it's a miracle i'm still alive and haven't overdosed on Klonopin yet" and will no longer prescribe me Klonopin. Oh no.
By now I've learned a bit about various narcotic classes and (of course) read up on the meds i'm on. I knew that since I'm not a recreational drug user and don't drink that there is virtually no way I'm going to overdose on a script that was 2 years old at that point. I did, however, know the withdrawal was potentially fatal. Heated argument, him kicking me of his office and a trip to the place's head MD threatening to sue the practice to hell and back if I went through even one minute of withdrawal symptoms due to the negligence of a 90 year old doctor (who was only still practicing to keep himself in his well known prostitute addiction... ew) and he wrote me a script for 1 0.5mg tab every 12 hours. In these past few years though I've noticed an uptick in doctors that realize benzo dangers so most will halve your dose for a few months. I mean... it's something at least.
Sorry for rambling. My point is this is what led to my discovery of the Ashton method. I firmly believe that this is the singular reason I'm still here. I immediately turned to IOPs and bought what I thought was an absurd number of tablets. It ended up being JUST enough to complete my taper down to .5mg of Klonopin.
So long answer short, yes, by all means stock up if you believe this to be an eventuality. Just remember to cycle through them and make sure to check with the provider that the expiration is a decent amount of time in the future. I'm not going to state this definitively but VERY FEW drugs become dangerous after expiration. I'm not going to say that diazepam is one of them. I'm also not going to mention that the US military among many others have done innumerable tests and studies to determine safety and potency of prescription drugs and found that diazepam is part of the 90+% of medications tested that are perfectly fine up to and including fifteen years past manufacture date (oops, mentioned that). If you're willing to wait, one of the posters on this site offers a few thousand DAZ 10s for an UNBELIEVABLE price from the country he gets a lot of crap about the shipping speed from.
Not a doctor, blah blah blah, ask yours. You know the drill, Sir (and/or ma'am). And of course, don't eat expired meds. Unless... you know, the apocalypse or something of that nature. I'd rather be cleaved in two by some sort of demonic something or other than deal with zombie apocalypse situations with full blown agoraphobia.
Thanks for the kind words. Honestly, I just enjoy helping where I can. Sometimes I ramble but I'll eventually get to where I'm going ahahaha. Too many people have entered and left my life (usually unexpectedly) due to pharmaceutical complications and I figure hey, I learn new things every day so why not put at least some food for thought out there for people who only have "SWIM" sites for answers and would like a bit more. I was actually in the same position as you a while back. You are correct in your assumption of lack of sympathy but you can expect at least a bit of ass-covering if the past couple of years are any indication.
To elaborate slightly: I was on 2mg klonopin 3x daily for GAD, insomnia and agoraphobia. I knew nothing of benzos at the time, just that the klonopin fixed everything my SSRI didn't. I now know the doctor was a well known pill pusher and I believe is now in prison but that's something else entirely. Anyway, I lost the job that gave me insurance that I was able to visit Dr. Pusher with. I ended up going into what started my background in pharmaceuticals with a less than reputable company and having some kind of garbage insurance that allowed me only the finest in sleazy, back alley physicians allowed to practice here. First few months were fine. Then out of nowhere Dr. Clueless informs me "it's a miracle i'm still alive and haven't overdosed on Klonopin yet" and will no longer prescribe me Klonopin. Oh no.
By now I've learned a bit about various narcotic classes and (of course) read up on the meds i'm on. I knew that since I'm not a recreational drug user and don't drink that there is virtually no way I'm going to overdose on a script that was 2 years old at that point. I did, however, know the withdrawal was potentially fatal. Heated argument, him kicking me of his office and a trip to the place's head MD threatening to sue the practice to hell and back if I went through even one minute of withdrawal symptoms due to the negligence of a 90 year old doctor (who was only still practicing to keep himself in his well known prostitute addiction... ew) and he wrote me a script for 1 0.5mg tab every 12 hours. In these past few years though I've noticed an uptick in doctors that realize benzo dangers so most will halve your dose for a few months. I mean... it's something at least.
Sorry for rambling. My point is this is what led to my discovery of the Ashton method. I firmly believe that this is the singular reason I'm still here. I immediately turned to IOPs and bought what I thought was an absurd number of tablets. It ended up being JUST enough to complete my taper down to .5mg of Klonopin.
So long answer short, yes, by all means stock up if you believe this to be an eventuality. Just remember to cycle through them and make sure to check with the provider that the expiration is a decent amount of time in the future. I'm not going to state this definitively but VERY FEW drugs become dangerous after expiration. I'm not going to say that diazepam is one of them. I'm also not going to mention that the US military among many others have done innumerable tests and studies to determine safety and potency of prescription drugs and found that diazepam is part of the 90+% of medications tested that are perfectly fine up to and including fifteen years past manufacture date (oops, mentioned that). If you're willing to wait, one of the posters on this site offers a few thousand DAZ 10s for an UNBELIEVABLE price from the country he gets a lot of crap about the shipping speed from.
Not a doctor, blah blah blah, ask yours. You know the drill, Sir (and/or ma'am). And of course, don't eat expired meds. Unless... you know, the apocalypse or something of that nature. I'd rather be cleaved in two by some sort of demonic something or other than deal with zombie apocalypse situations with full blown agoraphobia.