11-12-2016, 04:57 PM
(This post was last modified: 11-12-2016, 05:13 PM by Charon.
Edit Reason: No Rec talk, please.
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Never had rx strength IR DHC, but a scottish friend of mine once sent me a box full of CD's (I'm a music freak, CD and vinyl collection is huge. And over there you guys have what is the kind of equivalent of what we got here in Canada, CodeineContins, which are 6 hour pills, 50mg, 100mg, 150mg, 200mg. Of course when I had my first regimen with Mobicox (meloxicam) of opiates + an NSAID, I had no IR products, later on he added Percodans once or twice a day for breakthrough pain and then he retired 8 months later without warning...anyway, I told that story.
I was pretty glad that in one of the CD case, DHC Continus 120mg were there, and low and behold they're easy to turn into IR, 200mg of DHC is great and a much better painkiller than 200mg codeine IR, of course. Although I'm one of those persons who does digest codeine very well....and I'm really mad still more than 25 years later when Doriden was removed, I was already a kid, but it prevented people from getting filters made to shoot pills and shoot their morphine or hydromorphone because those things are not useful, at least at low dosages, orally. A single Doriden (gluthetimide 150mg + 30mg codeine), I would sleep the infection I had away and feel SO GOOD. But of course they banned gluthetimide and Doriden was removed from the market and not the kind you can get in a compounding pharmacy, because gluthetimide is illegal.
But I really would like if DHC was legal here, it's a good step in between codeine and stronger opioids. What comes after codeine here, if for cough, it's hydrocodone, if for pain, it's Oxycodone or Morphine or if allergic to morphine and codeine, you'll get a script of Demerol or Talwin. My ex girlfriend really enjoyed Talwin. The slight dissociative effect of pentazocine in particular, she really enjoyed, she had been scripted it for dental issues, and she would start to giggle like when I was a teenager and we would smoke weed and be Beavis & Butthead with 1 or 2 other friend who basically squatted my first apartment's kitchen heh.
I've had Demerol and I can see how the strange dissociative effect/delerious effect at large doses, I was given an IV of 150mg for an extreme migraine that Fiorinal with codeine, and Relpax taken before I knew it was coming did not work, I brought all the meds at the ER and told them, this stuff in combination usually works but it doesn't now. In Eastern Canada it's common to get a Demerol IV for extreme migraines, as long as you got the medical issue to allow it. I've only had the 50mg tablets once, and 12 of them 50mg pills, they only come as one dose, and I doubt it has an oral BA of over 80%.
Had to eat 5 to get the needed painkilling and the additional bonus of mood improvement. I'm a big proponent that some people's depression is not caused by serotonin or dopamine (Wellbutrin) or adrenaline/norepinephrine, but of a lack of natural endorphins and I was somebody adding to his 2 physical ailments that are painful beyond belief, especially when the second one (nerve related) and how low/regular doses of opiates did nothing to me, when totally opiate virgin. Those Doridens I got as a kid, I had to have 3 of them. Later on, I went to the ER when I had the very last and hopefully last medium ear infection, otitis, I was plagued by these as a child and even a while when a teenager, but in my early 20's, I had to leave my friend's house and since he had picked me up, I asked him to drop me at the ER, I would walk home afterwards. The nurse was lame and pulled my earlobe and I told him, I never got this kind of ear infection in my whole life, it's always deep inside my ear canal. So he got a light and since I was lucky and there was nobody in the back that monopolized the non-put-to-bed people, the male nurse walked to the doc's office and brought me a 5mg oxycodone IR pill (no tylenol, here they gave up on Percocets and Percodans since a while, people already taking so much tylenol themselves and aren't told there's tylenol in Percocet, although anything ending with *cet contains tylenol, they rarely got told so.
(A guy I know destroyed half his liver, thankfully the liver can heal itself, but he was lucky not to die of APAP poisoning, so his doctor back in the mid 90's when Oxycontins came out, he told me that his doctor said he couldn't get addicted from these (lol doctors and pharmacology), so he had the 30mg Oxycontins and now the generic 40mg (no generic 30mg Oxycontin in Canada), strange how purdue before removing Oxycontin becaue of the "won't somebody think of the childrunnnnnn!" ex-Prime Minister of Ontario, so for 5-6 months, only IR Oxycodone was available. Lots of people ended up shooting up Dilaudid, Hydromorph Contins and Heroin because of this, IR Oxycodone was rare as hell. And when the new OP-like OxyNeos came out, 3 days later or so the patent on the original Oxycontins. 6 or 7 companies started making generic Oxycontin, they're called Oxycodone-CR and if chewing a 20mg would hold you for 8 hours instead of the supposed 12, but at least you had some peace of mind because you could chew it into IR....amazing. I was glad that the DHC Continus were not difficult to turn int IR. I really hate almost all XR/XL/ER/SR stretching the effect of a medication beyond the natural oral dose. They're just asking to create more addicts, more than the IR version of anything. But the hysterics who have no medical or pharmacological background who sometimes run Health Canada will listen to the Prime Minister of the centre of the world in Canada, Ontario...
I was pretty glad that in one of the CD case, DHC Continus 120mg were there, and low and behold they're easy to turn into IR, 200mg of DHC is great and a much better painkiller than 200mg codeine IR, of course. Although I'm one of those persons who does digest codeine very well....and I'm really mad still more than 25 years later when Doriden was removed, I was already a kid, but it prevented people from getting filters made to shoot pills and shoot their morphine or hydromorphone because those things are not useful, at least at low dosages, orally. A single Doriden (gluthetimide 150mg + 30mg codeine), I would sleep the infection I had away and feel SO GOOD. But of course they banned gluthetimide and Doriden was removed from the market and not the kind you can get in a compounding pharmacy, because gluthetimide is illegal.
But I really would like if DHC was legal here, it's a good step in between codeine and stronger opioids. What comes after codeine here, if for cough, it's hydrocodone, if for pain, it's Oxycodone or Morphine or if allergic to morphine and codeine, you'll get a script of Demerol or Talwin. My ex girlfriend really enjoyed Talwin. The slight dissociative effect of pentazocine in particular, she really enjoyed, she had been scripted it for dental issues, and she would start to giggle like when I was a teenager and we would smoke weed and be Beavis & Butthead with 1 or 2 other friend who basically squatted my first apartment's kitchen heh.
I've had Demerol and I can see how the strange dissociative effect/delerious effect at large doses, I was given an IV of 150mg for an extreme migraine that Fiorinal with codeine, and Relpax taken before I knew it was coming did not work, I brought all the meds at the ER and told them, this stuff in combination usually works but it doesn't now. In Eastern Canada it's common to get a Demerol IV for extreme migraines, as long as you got the medical issue to allow it. I've only had the 50mg tablets once, and 12 of them 50mg pills, they only come as one dose, and I doubt it has an oral BA of over 80%.
Had to eat 5 to get the needed painkilling and the additional bonus of mood improvement. I'm a big proponent that some people's depression is not caused by serotonin or dopamine (Wellbutrin) or adrenaline/norepinephrine, but of a lack of natural endorphins and I was somebody adding to his 2 physical ailments that are painful beyond belief, especially when the second one (nerve related) and how low/regular doses of opiates did nothing to me, when totally opiate virgin. Those Doridens I got as a kid, I had to have 3 of them. Later on, I went to the ER when I had the very last and hopefully last medium ear infection, otitis, I was plagued by these as a child and even a while when a teenager, but in my early 20's, I had to leave my friend's house and since he had picked me up, I asked him to drop me at the ER, I would walk home afterwards. The nurse was lame and pulled my earlobe and I told him, I never got this kind of ear infection in my whole life, it's always deep inside my ear canal. So he got a light and since I was lucky and there was nobody in the back that monopolized the non-put-to-bed people, the male nurse walked to the doc's office and brought me a 5mg oxycodone IR pill (no tylenol, here they gave up on Percocets and Percodans since a while, people already taking so much tylenol themselves and aren't told there's tylenol in Percocet, although anything ending with *cet contains tylenol, they rarely got told so.
(A guy I know destroyed half his liver, thankfully the liver can heal itself, but he was lucky not to die of APAP poisoning, so his doctor back in the mid 90's when Oxycontins came out, he told me that his doctor said he couldn't get addicted from these (lol doctors and pharmacology), so he had the 30mg Oxycontins and now the generic 40mg (no generic 30mg Oxycontin in Canada), strange how purdue before removing Oxycontin becaue of the "won't somebody think of the childrunnnnnn!" ex-Prime Minister of Ontario, so for 5-6 months, only IR Oxycodone was available. Lots of people ended up shooting up Dilaudid, Hydromorph Contins and Heroin because of this, IR Oxycodone was rare as hell. And when the new OP-like OxyNeos came out, 3 days later or so the patent on the original Oxycontins. 6 or 7 companies started making generic Oxycontin, they're called Oxycodone-CR and if chewing a 20mg would hold you for 8 hours instead of the supposed 12, but at least you had some peace of mind because you could chew it into IR....amazing. I was glad that the DHC Continus were not difficult to turn int IR. I really hate almost all XR/XL/ER/SR stretching the effect of a medication beyond the natural oral dose. They're just asking to create more addicts, more than the IR version of anything. But the hysterics who have no medical or pharmacological background who sometimes run Health Canada will listen to the Prime Minister of the centre of the world in Canada, Ontario...