11-28-2016, 04:03 PM
(11-26-2016, 07:56 PM)CryptsOfEternity Wrote: Valium hands down?
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I told him "You surely know what they use in rapid benzo tapers, phenobarbital, for a week, no matter how addicted you are, it's been compared to torture".
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Anyway, phenobarbital is extremely weak. My dad's dog who has seizures needs to take some.
I think your first statement is spot on. Valium is much safer, and if it helps your condition, there is no good reason to switch to pheno. BUT, I think you are underestimating the utility and strength of pheno. It is used for rapid benzo tapers because it prevents (possibly life threatening) seizures. Benzo w/d with only pheno to calm your nerves is torture, but so is barb w/d with only valium to calm you. So I don't think these are fair ways to judge the strength of a drug. Pheno is a very strong drug. Not to be underestimated. Stronger than valium in most ways. But given the option, I would choose the valium for sure.