I remember the presence of that "which should not be named" on the old ioplist....they had their banners everywhere and everyone was like walking on eggshells around them..."watch what you say and when you say it, watch what you do and when you do it or you're in deep sh$%"...their menu is so enticing, BUT...I never had the guts to try them since everyone was always totally freaked out about them...and ttm/ppe are absolutely a breeze to deal with, I figured - I don't need that specialized med so bad that I want to risk time, money, reputation and hell, safety over it... just MHO---VERY HAPPY to have had the straight scoop on them since this community was started...feel like I dodged a huge bullet
- Rust never sleeps

