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bromazepam thougts experiences
#11
(05-19-2017, 06:53 PM)Sunglassesron Wrote: Got some of these but never got around to trying them plus everyone I know that's tried them doesn't rate them

i still take them,now your statement is correct in a way that ive read up online and many forums people just dismiss this benzo since it doesnt give them any recreational values.Since many who go benzo route usually start with vals,xans and that kick they get isnt in bromazepam one could take a lot of it but they wouldnt get effects from same as taking same amounts of other benzos that either make one really confident sleepy and so on.
bromazepam seems like just anxiety switch targeted benzo nothing else.

Now ive no clue why its not popular or liked since its as mentioned one of the first benzos if not the first made, but what i like about it that it seems not to impair or cloud the mind compared to other benzo out there that impair ones abilities.
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#12
At the risk at stating the bleeding obvious, the dose of Bromazepam is everything.
As a 2mg/night alp user, 18-24mg of Brom is necessary for a clear and clean anxiety-free evening and a good night's sleep.
Purchased in quantity, some email vendors make the economics of a 3 or 4 x 6mg tablets almost reasonable.
(But the 1.5mg & 3mg meds I see floating around in the <50 post vendors are way too expensive to consider).
And who is going to sit down and make their way through 16 x 1.5mg tabs to experience virtually the identical relief offered by 2 x 1 mg of alp?
I do swap onto Bromaz occasionally for a few days if I sense I need a break from the alps.
Brom's a fine B3nzo, but being pretty slow acting, and not readily available and being quite expensive seems to keep it off the top of most people's lists.
Just my 2c worth.
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#13
brom is almost very first benzo that was released im not much into history but its close enough, so alps vals etc have decades research put in to perfect them.

that said about dosage is about right 6x4 would be about close to 2mg alp,but since its slow acting and subtle id compare it more like to 20mg di@z at best, at the end of the day it does work ok as any other b#nzo if you need smth weaker and long lasting its good choice.
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#14
Many people report it helps with anxiety alone with no muscle relaxation or sedation. In my experience the main benefit over something like alprazolam is the latter has a great effect on memory (i.e. worse memory).

My experience has been that if I am doing something anxiety-provoking at work, yet also need to perform or can't deal with xanax memory issues, then bromazepam has been very helpful. It is my "go to" for public speaking. Not sure how things would play out if used daily or by someone used to xanax (might seem very weak). Not suggesting all anxiety goes away, but it dials down the fear - that for me is a manageable balance between calming down but still being totally switched on.
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#15
I tried Bro awhile back and felt it was pretty weak. Seeing it is one of the few bezos that are not sedating it might be worth getting a sample on my next order. Falling asleep or slurring your words is pretty unpleasant in a public setting. I can handle the relative weakness as my tolerance is not out of control. As Barq says it could be a "manageable balance".
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#16
Personally I have found this particular benzodiazepine to be quite underwhelming, it works, if you take enough, but this could be said of any sedative. To put my experience in context though, I am more accustomed to higher potency, benzos like clonazepam, lorazepam, and nitrazepam (I also have very severe baseline anxiety)

If there is one truth I have learned from conversing with other psychiatric patients in waiting rooms
and the like, it’s that no two individuals respond the same way to any benzo. My ex-girlfriend used to swear that diazepam put her into a stupor (and from what I observed, it did), whereas she could
take large doses of bromazepam and feel almost no fatigue, simply anxiety relief. To me this is fascinating, because I respond in exactly the opposite way in the cases of both examples. But from what I understand her reaction was more common - it is said to be less sedating than some of the more commonly prescribed varieties, but it is also one of the older benzos, which I have heard is associated with possible Leukopenia or liver damage, to the extent that the dispensing guidelines reccomemd regular blood analyses for safety.
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#17
Did not know that Bro caused Leukopenia, a decrease in white blood cells. Interesting as I'm a Leukemia patient who's relapsing and with a ever increasing white blood count about 10x what a normal person has. For me, for now it seems like an option. Luckily I get blood work done about every 2-3 months and my liver is functioning fine. Of course taking this med during treatment when your WBC drops well below normal could be very dangerous. While I have time before my next treatment at the end of the year it might be worth exploring on a limited basis. Will discuss with Onc at my next appt.
Thanks
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#18
MoJim, I wouldn't put too much energy into worrying about bromazopam and Leukopenia.
Have a read of this (English translation is at the bottom half.) to put your mind at ease.
Regardless of any research, your own blood work is always the best indicator.

Out of 387 patients admitted to hospital with Overdose: Transient leukopenia with minimal white blood cells count of 1.78 was revealed in a single patient with bromazepam overdose.  Leucocytosis was registered in 34 patients. In 25 of them pneumonia was  proved on chest radiography.

Deep coma, respiratory failure and hypotension (low blood pressure) were the major side effects found in this study - which is exactly what you would expect from benzo poisoning.
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#19
Maybe I didn't word my post clearly enough. I have a very high white blood count, so a medication that can reduce the number could be a good thing or at least buy me some time before my next treatment. Good to know that "minimal white blood cells count of 1.78 was revealed in (only) a single patient with bromazepam overdose". In past treatments my WBC fell well below the minimal levels, so in my case it could be more dangerous. Thanks for your post and information.

Btw, Leukemia in Greek literally means white blood.
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#20
Hi MoJim. I knew it might appear a bit contradictory to mention Leukopenia and Leukemia in the same breath. Smile
I point was to demonstrate that no matter which end you look at it from, Bromaz has little influence on WBC's.
That said, the research I linked to was an overdose study - not a long term retrospective study.
The later would be more relevant to your situation.
Still, I hope you feel more comfortable about your Broms intake now.
Because it's unfortunate (and not uncommon) for people to increase their angst by taking their anti-angst meds. Wink
All the best,
R.
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