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(07-13-2018, 11:49 AM)G.Elias Wrote: Always thought the myl@ns were ok,the 2 big iops on here have them, i always found them decent, i used them mainly to help me sleep, a sample pack from either of the 2 iops would last me a good 3 months, @lps seem to be the most popular benz these days.
Thats from just viewing sites like redd it and some sites only able to view with tor, hardly any diaz on the onion sites mainly all @lps from what i have seen.
Trouble is with some of those sites and with @lps being so popular they seem to be getting home-made with presses they have got from somewhere, been some tragic results cos of the home made things. Its crazy how popular they are, its like since they started getting romantisiced by rap culture they have blown up. Street values are waaay over the top. And they are one of the most commonly faked and home pressed mags!. I mean they have always been popular, buts its on a whole other level nowadays
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Gador and Ksalol, best I tried so far ( but never tried the pzifer bars )
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Very true Icarus,the number of younger people getting addicted to @alps is going through the roof, some will want to quit at some point, i just dont know how some are going to manage to do it as the support for getting off benzos is almost non existent in the UK at least, gps refuse to help you taper, all that is on offer is basic detox centers which some just cant either access or would prefer a slower and safer taper.At some point government and health care really need to start helping people who want to get off benzos instead of fobbing them off with anti-depressants.
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(07-14-2018, 05:37 PM)G.Elias Wrote: Very true Icarus,the number of younger people getting addicted to @alps is going through the roof, some will want to quit at some point, i just dont know how some are going to manage to do it as the support for getting off benzos is almost non existent in the UK at least, gps refuse to help you taper, all that is on offer is basic detox centers which some just cant either access or would prefer a slower and safer taper.At some point government and health care really need to start helping people who want to get off benzos instead of fobbing them off with anti-depressants. I 100% agree with you, ive had alot of friends IRL with young adult aged siblings who have gone through this problem, and when they are informed enough about quitting outright to the point where they are honest about their addiction and request the taper program, the doctors see this as "drug seeking" and go straight to things like mirtazapine or trazadone.
I understand psychological impact from long term benzo use is seriously damaging. But from what ive observed with people on anti depressents for the usual 6-12 months. That is pretty damaging in its own right!, and once again its just causing the body and mind to rely on something else. And encourages addictive behaviour.
There isnt enough education surrounding this in every area. Growing up, and with the doctors that most trust without question.
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My preference would be gador or ksalol to get best bang for your buck.
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Whether branded or generic, the alp seems to be the most addictive of all benzos.
I know many people who have never tried any illegal drug but can not do without alp.
I feel from my experience that it is easier to stop taking heroin than the alp which is him legal.
SO IF YOU HAVE NEVER TAKEN ALP, DO NOT MAKE THE ERROR BEGIN TO TAKE THIS
F...... BENZO.
(07-14-2018, 05:28 AM)anxietyguy Wrote: Gador and Ksalol, best I tried so far ( but never tried the pzifer bars )
PFIZER, UPJOHN are of high quality, so of course they are original and not fakes.
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I'm still trying to decide whether alpra or lorazepam is a better fit for depression associated with anxiety. Anyone with any experience?
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Here's a bit of a hint...
Try reading the rules where the first one says, "To make yourself a welcome thread" ...
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ok, salty, i see some members whom had answers for u. but were banned for pretending to be french. Trolls.
But, one stated: don't start this f*ing drug.
And, I mean hard core users have stated to others: once u r on xanax, the withdrawal is so bad, u never go off.
It is a vicious vicious med to wean oneself from. The doctors actually believed the drug vendors whom come to their offices. That xanax was not addictive.
And one medical doctor to whom i am related became mighty addicted to xanax. She is ok now but it took yrs to get her better.
I have PTSD and anxiety. and tremors from MS and lupus. I was scripted valium ten mg thrice a day at age fifteen cuz the tremors of teenage MS were beginning. It would take years for me to learn about illnesses and i always studied meds.
I never, or absolutely rarely had to take more than thrice a day. I can stop on a heartbeat when supplies are low.
I, personally feel it is safer. But, i shall leave u to other members.
And, u have a welcome thread now salty. Your comments in a thread by Our Moderator Ice Wizard became your welcome thread.
Good luck. Make wise choices on this. Its a very difficult medicine to taper oneself off.
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