We have removed a senior member and his vendors

[Charon]

If a person is willing to do an elaborate hoax, using friends and all, do u not think that many of those whom allegedly received were either mr.upchuckLhimself or his buddies whom were all working with him?

he could have been a good vendor. maybe. the few words he spoke to me or in PM were probably lies.

he was early and he knew we would have let him be a vendor. we were private then also.
We never read PMs. But no one can promise that LE don't try that stuff. And, to have so so many pms spew forth, must have caught others attention as well.

he let his identity be shown and IP addresses and all. of him and those whom used him.

and we all know that there is an increased presence online looking for inappropriate forums.

If he gets subpoened, we have to turn over the business he conducted via his emails and PMs. What the hell was he thinking? He should have had his own site.

Just be cautious. And again, I state of course someone so devious will give up any and all info he got from his clients. his helpey helperton behavior. to L E.

This is being handled.

[esbayne]

It is truly a sad day when someone you trust deceives you. We all operate on trust and I trust my vendor and friends here with my life considering the bad things that could happen. Money does strange things to some people. In the end people get what they deserver and I just wanted to give my opinion for what it is worth.

Everyone knows you reap what you sow and stealing from people when money is so tight and remember you are only as good as your words and actions.

I wish everyone good luck and we discover any other bad seeds so we can trust one another.

Eddie

[Believe473]

Wow, all this deception sounds exhausting, it seams some people are just built to be deceptive and liars and have no problem living their life this way. I took a break and had some stuff going on, but im sure I may have gotten sucked into this, because I guess I assume everyone is honest and hear to help. But the reality is this is a harsh world full of people who will do anything for a buck, except work for it. I have to check my pms but dont have that many and don't believe I spoke to mrchucky but certainly remember seeing his name quite a bit. Thanks for uncovering all this I doubt it was any fun.

[Charon]

Nice to see you today! Some people think lying and deception have no consequences. But one loses all trust.

Have a glorious day!

[Froggy]

Trust, it takes eons to build and but a moment to destroy. (sigh)

It is such a tight, positive group here, with the members having a lot of trust between each other & our vendors. It’s so disheartening that one of whom we thought was our own would do this. ?

[Charon]

Yes. Someone we thought would be one of us. I believe I horrifyingly referred him to this forum when we all got banned at ioplist.com. He was one of our first members.

Well he should not have let his account explode out thru the system.

And again, just cuz we don't read PMs or emails, it does not mean L E is not doing so either.

We have many many guests on. We are working on the whys of that one now.

[barq2]

Yes. Someone we thought would be one of us. I believe I horrifyingly referred him to this forum when we all got banned at ioplist.com. He was one of our first members.

You reached out to a few people you knew - including me, for which I'm eternally grateful. Without that kindness I'd never have encountered a life saving vender.

I've never conversed with this scammer, although the name is vaguely familiar. But it's impossible for you to know everything. I believe in karma, you believe in God, so either way he'll get what he is due.

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