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[Allegory]

This is basically a copy of an earlier post I wrote, no point in rewriting it.

I got an email solicitation from them a few months ago, and figured I'd go ahead and reply. Was frustrated DDS24 was no longer negotiating prices for my bulk orders.

I bulk order Tram, Soma, and some bits of this and that quarterly, always from DDS.

DDS said they had to raise prices and wouldn't be negotiating with me anymore, so I propositioned DPM.

I bought a bit over 1.5k USD product, and received the first of two packages quickly, a very large amount of Soma. ProSoma just like DDS.

My first thought was "I'm a complete idiot for going that large on a new vendor" But we met upon a good price, and I got a good feeling from chatting with him. I suppose alcohol gave me some confidence too.

DDS raised their prices enough that I felt like I had to take a risk.

The second pack got hit by customs, that was an even larger amount of tramadol (UDT-200, which he let me specifically request).

Pros: 
Responsive Cust. Service,
Similar Selection to DDS
Willing to accommodate with extras/bulk pricing


Cons:
Packaging isn't up to par with DDS. Effective, but not extra discreet like I've grown accustomed to.
Unproven/vetted in this community.

Feel free to check it out. Frankly their site is awkward, I would advise emailing or live chatting, you will undoubtedly get dramatically better pricing.

I'm a haggler, so it's nice to have a vendor who enjoys negotiating business.

[Charon]

well, thank u for sharing ur good experiences, allegory.

[IceWizard]

Allegory ... Maybe you are the one I need to ask about this ... I know what soma is (nothing like a good ole DAN) , but I'm a little confused on the difference between pro-soma and the pain-O-soma ... Any thoughts, I can't say I've ever heard of the later until lately, are they just another mfg? ... Anywho I thought I'd ask ... Thsnks for letting me bend your ear. ..

[Charon]

someone will explain this far better. it is just not how i raised myself to ignore a question.

so, we all knew dans. i gave up using soma. someone will share about pro soma. probably allegory.

but, i read in a thread or two here, that people whom once liked pain- o -soma, found the last couple deliveries to be less than stellar. like the formula has been changed. for the worse. as usual.

i know an expert will answer u soon my friend. just not my nature to at least acknowledge ur question. and, maybe bring attention to it.

have an awesome nite.

i just gave up on soma cuz i pay for other necessities. sorry.

[OrangeClay]

Quality of Prosoma is better than Pain-O-Soma, just my .02 cent, You are best to try both everyone is different on how they react to certain meds. You may find just the opposite. Many vendors carry both and you can order small amounts to test.

[IceWizard]

Quality of Prosoma is better than Pain-O-Soma, just my .02 cent, You are best to try both everyone is different on how they react to certain meds. You may find just the opposite. Many vendors carry both and you can order small amounts to test.

Absolutely a great idea OrangeClay! ... I think I may do just that... I've always liked mixin-matchin ... Lol ... Couldn't hurt that's a given with me and them there somas .. When I do make the plunge I'll let you know how they worked out ...

[hippy]

their prices are kinda high on valium and tranax. but service can make up for that. and other meds may be cheaper. I chatted with a customer service rep ant he says they carry Abbott and Cipla valium for the same price. and we all know Cipla brand is terrible. but he was friendly and helpful.

[Allegory]

The biggest recommendation I can mention with DPM is that they are willing to negotiate.

Perhaps I have a bit of leeway due to the bulk nature of my orders, but I think that if you think a price is too high, email them, or talk in live chat.

They are very receptive to price comparisons and want your business.

They ship out of the country with the sacred bovines, like many others, so if you find more suitable prices from other vendors in the area, tell them.

I would be surprised if they did not work with you to find an agreeable rate.

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Allegory ... Maybe you are the one I need to ask about this ... I know what soma is (nothing like a good ole DAN) , but I'm a little confused on the difference between pro-soma and the pain-O-soma ... Any thoughts, I can't say I've ever heard of the later until lately, are they just another mfg? ... Anywho I thought I'd ask ... Thsnks for letting me bend your ear. ..

ProSoma and Pain-O-Soma are both intending to be the same product. The active ingredient is Carisoprodol, a skeletal muscle relaxant. 

Even though Carisoprodol has a relatively short half-life of 2 hours or so, it is a prodrug that produces Meprobamate metabolites after being metabolized in the liver. 

Meprobamate was historically a successful minor sedative from 1955 until the mid 1970s, after restrictions were placed on the drug in 1967.

Benzodiazepines have largely replaced Meprobamate nowadays.

NOW -- Why did I go into that? I wanted to explain how Soma works so well even though it has a short action period. 

After it metabolizes, the Meprobamate lingers for several more hours, making repeat dosing of Soma on a 4-6hr basis successful even though it would not make sense on paper.

The second reason is to differentiate between the sub-brands. As we all know, generic brands vary in quality, but also in the components used for the binding material.

Because so much of Soma's effects are due to the secondary metabolite, not just the Carisoprodol, the binding material plays a big role in how well it metabolizes.

Somas are typically available in 350mg and 500mg dosages. It is often reported that the 500mg doses are disproportionately stronger, though this is unproven.

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Now to opinions:

I prefer ProSoma. I have had both ProSoma and Pain-O-Soma, at least a thousand of each over the years, many more of the ProSoma.

ProSoma is manufactured by Centurion Labs.

Pain-O-Soma is manufactured by HAB Pharmaceuticals.

In my own ANECDOTAL AND UNOFFICIAL opinion, I have found ProSoma to be stronger and more effective on a CONSISTENT basis. 

There have been times where I have had a particularly strong or weak batch of either, but Centurion seems to have more consistency.

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Final thoughts:

Always request product from at least two manufacturing batches (unless you're only ordering a small amount). This is not difficult for a vendor to accomodate.

Feel free to request half-and-half in your order, and figure out your personal preference. As always, your opinion is the most important.


I'm here for any questions.

[IceWizard]

No my friend, I think you covered all the bases... I had just never tried the Pain-O-Soma .. ProSoma seem just fine to me, but man those DANS .... Those are hard to beat ... I'll just hang with the Pros for now ... You have been an excellent resource .... My many thanks ..

[Allegory]

Received my reship today. DPM ate the cost of 4000ct 200mg tram (2 seized shipments) with no hesitation after customs interfered in the life of another private individual.

Nice to be settled.