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Anxiet is a beast. It's always undermined my ability to perform be happy just enjoy life. I've tried inderal as you mentioned Charon but I had a terrible reaction. Doc said it was rare but needed dopaquel to calm down. But I do agree with exercise get the endorphins going. But nevertheless this site has really helped give me counsel and help when the medical community won't. Mental health remains a stigmatized health concern imo among the broader medical community. But we got each other for support.
Best to all
The greatest pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do.
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l also went through the many SSRI's, what a terrible time that was. Being diagnosed with GAD from an early age, it has been tough dealing with all the judgement, even from friends and loved ones. Some, probably most; I feel that they simply do not know, so they are unable to relate and understand. Such as a good friend of mine, I recently told I take Xans for Anxiety and his response was "why? what do you have to be anxious about.. you are a chill guy". And he meant nothing bad by his response.. he just literally, didn't understand, and if not knowing the person well like I did, I may have mis-concieved it as being negative. Which is a possibility for ..some of the judgment that I feel from others (I can be overly-sensitive), but certainly not many. I absolutely hate going to the pharmacy, or having to call them to put a script in. The way that I get treated has caused me to switch pharmacies at times in the past. I also love the whole, lets make you wait until you are out of meds before we will fill your script. They neglect to realize not every month has 30 days, and need to account for more or less (Feb). And then you get there attitude because they think you are being a jerk.. because you don't want to wake up to no medication and need to go to the pharmacy to start your day. Sorry I don't want to keep rambling. But, I agree with all on here. We suffer as a whole (sad and unfortunately) and it's great to have others that can relate.. well not great that you also are being treated poorly, but great that we have each other. Threads like this just remind me how lucky I am to be apart of this community.
Sorry for off topic, is Dopaquel the same as Seroquel?
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I get this a lot just relax or calm down in over 50 and this has been a struggle my entire life
Think it really helps to talk to people that have had same problems my family friends wife
Don't understand it's taken my years to grasp what's wrong with me and I learn more every day
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I totally agree with everything you are saying. I have had similar experiences and for myself, I just cut thise people off and dont need the negativity in my life. Anyone that truly cares about you will be understanding and not say such hurtful and inconsiderate things l. I'm sorry people are treating you and your disorder that way, but the best advice I can give is get then out of your life ASAP. Good luck partner, I hope things get better.
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The pressure of reaching a goal I had, I now believe was the tipping point that caused a storm of horrific anxiety. My doctor originally totally dismissed me, so I turned to alcohol to stem it at nights, which caused it to be worse the next day. People don't realize the scars you can't see on the outside of a person are often the deepest ones.
There has been a bit of a revolution in my country that has just started this year 2017 to get past the stigma of mental health, long overdue.
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ive recently opened up to one family member,basically said look im expcting some b@nzos, this crap is emotional to say the least to put to words, and family member knew almost 10 yrs ago i had issues.To say the least response was utterly poor.
first they have some idea that b@nzos are classed as narco meds, thus immediate worry about addiction, now didnt come out straight and said im hooked on these yokes to take almost daily and need them to function.
later said family member did some research online and came out with hypothesis how much should i take when having anxiety,also got couple bottles of b vitamins (seriously).
now i gave as best explanation as i could and explained why im such low achiever for most of my life, avoiding relationships, people etc.
anyway think i just made a huge mistake all together, i know benzos are no joke but someone telling you how to take meds and deal with anxiety who obviously have no clue themselves is like asking brick for advice and understanding.
now it might sound like coming out to person is easy task but one needs to grow extra pair just to utter few words when suffering for years and getting reply back of worried more about bull addiction then persons mental state all together seems like total disappointment if even closest people cant see how bad it does get, and that if there was freaking help id swallow bottles of multivitamins if it was the freaking answer to my 24/7 nightmares.
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(08-29-2017, 01:02 PM)cmdline Wrote: ive recently opened up to one family member,basically said look im expcting some b@nzos, this crap is emotional to say the least to put to words, and family member knew almost 10 yrs ago i had issues.To say the least response was utterly poor.
first they have some idea that b@nzos are classed as narco meds, thus immediate worry about addiction, now didnt come out straight and said im hooked on these yokes to take almost daily and need them to function.
later said family member did some research online and came out with hypothesis how much should i take when having anxiety,also got couple bottles of b vitamins (seriously).
now i gave as best explanation as i could and explained why im such low achiever for most of my life, avoiding relationships, people etc.
anyway think i just made a huge mistake all together, i know benzos are no joke but someone telling you how to take meds and deal with anxiety who obviously have no clue themselves is like asking brick for advice and understanding.
now it might sound like coming out to person is easy task but one needs to grow extra pair just to utter few words when suffering for years and getting reply back of worried more about bull addiction then persons mental state all together seems like total disappointment if even closest people cant see how bad it does get, and that if there was freaking help id swallow bottles of multivitamins if it was the freaking answer to my 24/7 nightmares.
I suffer pretty bad social anxiety amongst other things. For me with benzos using them give me back a quality of life back with regards to the anxiety which is paralyzing. I have been on and off them trying to replace them with other non-addictive meds. I found it not so difficult surprisingly when I have been coming off from benzo.
I asked my psychiatrist why I had not received more horrors whilst stopping benzo. He explained that if you take them like clockwork, same time, everyday sort of thing, as opposed to taking a few days break from them here and there, that it makes all the difference. The short breaks from diaz/benzo cause waves effect as opposed to a constant line in the brain of usage, which makes it easier to reduce the amount without adverse effects. I have no Idea how or why just what I remember him saying.
It is a nightmare when closest family dont understand and harp on about addictive benzos and other meds you should be taking. They don't themselves understand how bad someone's quality of life can be affected by their condition.
For me, my psychiatrist put me back on benzo (small amount) as its effects helped me to live better after trying all the alternatives.
People who dont suffer the condition unless they are trained in mental health will never understand.
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(07-23-2016, 03:14 PM)Charon Wrote: i am so sorry, freedom. it does appear that the majority of people are only able to see their own needs and concerns.
they are oblivious to those in pain, in hunger, in angst around them.
i was raised to pick one self up by the bootstraps.
broken bone? just don't use that bone and eventually it will heal.
depressed over something major league? or, constantly feeling sad, on the outside looking in, unable to have all the fun others claim to have? then, its all your fault.
i was told my depression was a chemical imbalance. meh. pretty sure its cuz i deal with rather heavy things alot.
But, sorry to say, freedom, in real life and on forums, if someone just shares something awful, and, is in tears and needing comfort, dollars to donuts the next speaker in real life, or the next poster on a forum will jump on with I GOT MY ORDER TODAY!
In my world, because I suffered a lot of emotional and physical pain, I cannot stand when someone else is also suffering.
How can they turn away? Most people are seemingly concerned with themselves.
At least here, we have a family that will care, freedom. We care that u hurt.
Wow. I know that this is an old bump but your comment really struck a chord with me. I'm seriously blown away. Thank you for sharing this.
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cmdline, so sorry to hear that you put yourself out there, opened up, was honest and got in return, not the support you were looking for. But, we take the risk and hope for the best. Pat yourself on the back for taking that step you felt you needed to take.
As I'm sure you know, sometimes it takes longer for our closest family and friends to adjust. But, more often than not they e v e n t u a l l y do.
I think now that it's out in the open, at least you can allow yourself to have a little bit more open control by being assertive in what YOU know YOU need.
"Yeah, sure thanks for the input on how much you think I should take, loved one, but I got it covered. I appreciate your research and your concern, and I'll take all of that into consideration when I'm making my decisions for me (with doc if you have one). I appreciate your love and concern."
As for vitamins, etc. generally speaking B12 won't hurt, (but checking with doc is always advisable). Thank them for those tips too. (Even though you know it may or may not be what you need.) Thank them for their love and concern. "God, you have no idea how much I appreciate you and your looking out for me."
Also, maybe some boundaries need to be set on this. You know, something like, "After about a week or two, we can have a talk and see how things are going for me, with my plan, your input and doc's help. In the meantime, let's see if what I'm trying is doing it's job. We can regroup later. We don't need to talk about it everyday. That just makes things worse for me, and neither of us (nor doc) wants that. So, we'll set up a regular check up type meeting."
Just a suggestion. I guess I'm kind of passive aggressive in that I'll yes you to death and do my own thing, but I've learned that if I make them feel part of my getting well (whether real or not), things can tend to go a bit more smoothly.
Like I said, just a suggestion. Maybe others can critique, add or discard some of what I've offered, which would help you more.
I hope you find the balance that you're looking for in the relationship and the whole situation.
Keep the faith.
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We have a very big focus in my workplace on mental health at the moment, promoting and explaining it is or should be seen the same as any other illness. It’s great to see management supporting and promoting campaigns to remove the stupid stigma attached to mental health and anxiety issues. Anyone who thinks they don’t or will never suffer from these problems is either incredibly naive or stupid.
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