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Not sure if you have given Restoril ( Temazepam ) a try or Nitrazepam. Both are pretty good to slleep well. No Grogginess for me when I wake up in the morning so that’s a plus. Hope all goes well for you.

I've just tried Temezepam, makes me a little woozy but nor real sleep effects. I find that with most benzos, make me tired and drowsy but bizarrely do not help me sleep.

I think it's a combo issue, particularly with tramadol which really buggers up my sleeping. Just got to work out the right approach at the right time I suppose.

(04-12-2018, 05:32 PM)m3dz420 Wrote: [ -> ]I have chronic pain and insomnia with an incredible drug tolerance.  I've tried them all chloral hydrate, seconal, otc, trazadone, seroquel, benzos, ambien.  I found the most effective for me is doxepin and a benzo halcion or klonopin will work nice.

If seconal will not help you must have it bad. Rohyponal ussed to work like the old Quaalude did but they were misused . They are in the benzo family. They are still made but are not legal here because people were using them as date rape drugs. I too have insomnia but use OTC melatonin and the old nyquil z and that helps put me too sleep. Xanax work well and do not have the half like that diazapam. I hope you can find something that works. If I find something I will let you know

Regards Edddie

Besides being helpful for nausea, motion sickness and outstanding for allergies Phenegran makes me really drowsy ?. It is also cheap like $29 for 109 Ct of 10 mg and I usually take 3 (30 mg) or so. It works wonders for itchy red eyes and runny nose even helping potentiate pk's to an extent at bedtime.

Temazepam.  Nuff said.  Best knock-out medicine I can think of, my brother has severe sleeping issues for numerous reasons i don't need to get into, essentially making him an insomniac every other day, but he says this is the only sleeping medication that has actually had a positive impact on his life and ability to rest.  Temazepam will definitely make you drowsy in the morning for the first week or so, however, i find that to be the case for most sleep medications.  However, once your body becomes use to the medicine the drowsiness will fade.  If im not mistaken, their are some reputable proprietors who offer this product but I believe you will have to read to find that info yourself, per the rules! Haha.  Best of luck tho!

Guess I should've added that if your taking strong pain meds (or any at all, for that matter).  PLEASE do research and use caution if you want to give this a try, after all its a true Benzo, so its very potent and mixing too much of those two types of meds is how people fall asleep and dont wake up... Please be safe y'all!! 

Much love,
Snatcher

(04-22-2018, 07:27 PM)skipper1 Wrote: [ -> ]While I have tried several sleep med's , I just tries Nitr@apam and man it worked great...Best sleep ive had in long time...

Do you have trouble to follow into deep sleep or staying asleep ?
Thanks

I tried melatonin, it took 2 weeks to work but the dreams were those nightmare type, so I stopped. Ativan a few nights a week works well for me.

(08-11-2018, 06:31 PM)Lockes Wrote: [ -> ]I tried melatonin, it took 2 weeks to work but the dreams were those nightmare type, so I stopped. Ativan a few nights a week works well for me.

Melatonin Nightmares are scary, ive been there. I switched over to magnesium after I couldnt handle them anymore. daytime flashblacks from the nightmares were impeding my life. A little bit of Oxazepam is helpful aswell.

If you are prone to nightmares avoid zopiclone and zolpidem like the plague. They induced full on night terrors for me.. Id wake up in the middle of the night in tears and shaking.

(01-26-2018, 12:19 AM)andybones Wrote: [ -> ]A small dose, as maeve also has mentioned, of Quetiapine works great for me. I've found less is more with this medicine, and also don't have any issues getting out of bed in the morning, as other meds do.

QUETIAPINE is a excellent alternative to Benzo. 

The most important is that QUETIAPINE is not physically addictive.

This isn't my "2cents worth", it's my "10cents worth" .

If you have chosen to use pharmaceuticals, then I would suggest that you get to know the details of how your chosen meds work quite intimately.
This takes time and effort, but anything is worth a good night's sleep. A good place to start is by browsing through the Factsheets at Tripsit.

1) If you are an intransigent insomniac, don't expect a profound response from a tiny pixie dose.

2) Take your dose according to the timing onset of the med.  If your med takes 1 hour to start working and you want to go to sleep at 10 pm, then take it at at 9pm.
Taking it at 6pm and hoping that you'll be really sleepy by 10pm is doomed to fail. 

3) 'Mix it up'  (I believe this is really under-rated)
For instancce, Tem@z3p@m one night,  N1tr@z3p@m the next, @lpr@z0l@m the next, Z0Ipid3m the next, 3tiz0lam the next - this will discourage resistance to a very large extant.

And lastly, any stimulating drink after midday is not your friend (decaf coffee is fine) and if you are sensitive to booze (unfortunately) more than 1-2 alcoholic drinks at night can easily have you *bing* wide awake in the middle of the night - and the temptation will be to believe that meds have failed you - but in fact  it was the Alcohol that screwed it up.

Try this formula and see how it works for you - and report back please - maybe there's a simple tweak that will resolve the issue entirely.
I worked long and hard to find this method which works well for me - I hope it works for you too  - coz a good night's sleep makes Everything better.