Anxiety over a forum anyone?

[mr nobody]

Welcome to the brave new world of we have solved your medical problem and given your life back.  Now for no reason actually backed by any real medical studies we are going to make you sick again.

Have read articles that say long term use of bz are safe but "modern thinking" says they are evil/addictive.

Hope you get through this and your English usage is better than mine.

[Noonehere]

Noonehere id say welcome but seems your long time member,can relate really on most forums,sometimes id type up half page response then just delete it, since either dont want to explain stuff to people or as many other discussion's general forums go, its usually arguing picking sides etc.

I can see how it can be difficult for newbies getting here and needing to reach certain posts number, since many topics have been talked about million times, that said sometimes i do create my own topics to start ball rolling, since i want to hear personal opinion from someone in similar situation or topic, to have a point to relate to.

Anyway seems your ok ,and have what you need,i dont post regularly either but if have smth in mind or see discussion where i can add something of value i usually jump in.

its bad being cut off xanax after long time,so hopefully youll be able to find another doc that has more knowledge as not to wean person of after decades in few months time,from one of the most hardest benzo to kick.

Thanks cmdline. You are right It is really bad cut off.

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Welcome to the brave new world of we have solved your medical problem and given your life back.  Now for no reason actually backed by any real medical studies we are going to make you sick again.

Have read articles that say long term use of bz are safe but "modern thinking" says they are evil/addictive.

Hope you get through this and your English usage is better than mine.

Thanks mr nobody. Yeah I have been on them for over 20 years now. this was about 15 years ago they cut me off I have been using an IOP ever since.

[Noonehere]

Hi Noonehere.
I have found the pictures thread to actually be therapeutic for me. There is so much beauty posted there and it also causes me to seek out beauty to post which helps make me feel a little more calm knowing that there is a lot of beauty around us even when we are having anxiety or stress.
I also enjoy the music thread because I can see what others like and also post my owns faves which gives me an excuse to listen to some music that soothes me.
Wishing you peace.
reilli

I am hitting up the pictures now that I figured out how to post them. Thanks reilli there really are some beautiful pictures in there.

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Noonehere id say welcome but seems your long time member,can relate really on most forums,sometimes id type up half page response then just delete it, since either dont want to explain stuff to people or as many other discussion's general forums go, its usually arguing picking sides etc.

I can see how it can be difficult for newbies getting here and needing to reach certain posts number, since many topics have been talked about million times, that said sometimes i do create my own topics to start ball rolling, since i want to hear personal opinion from someone in similar situation or topic, to have a point to relate to.

Anyway seems your ok ,and have what you need,i dont post regularly either but if have smth in mind or see discussion where i can add something of value i usually jump in.

its bad being cut off xanax after long time,so hopefully youll be able to find another doc that has more knowledge as not to wean person of after decades in few months time,from one of the most hardest benzo to kick.

Oh man I just noticed your name! Sorry I a computer nerd. 

[ComeDayGoDay]

I have a similar situation. After having a baby (and reluctantly, albeit necessary, getting off all medication during pregnancy), I went to a new doctor to start up my schedule of meds again. This included antidepressants, anti-anxiety, ADD and insomnia. It worked well for me as a whole. The new doctor wanted to start me on tiny doses of the antidepressants and refused to even consider to put me on the other meds. Even though I told her it is what I was prescribed for years before the pregnancy. It worked well. So, I just went along with her. After a couple months of upping the dosage, she "allowed" me to be put on ADD medication which helps with the side effects of the antidepressant. It was still a very low dose. She said all the meds were "addictive". Well....sure! But, I am fine and function BETTER on them. I am a better mother, wife and friend on them. We all know what a PITA it is to change doctors so I'm hanging in there a bit longer, but I am thinking about switching. But, starting over with new doctors is so hard and time consuming. I feel like I was a guinea pig and she wanted to be the one to find the cure of alllllllll my problems. She didn't like me telling her I had a solution that worked, that I just needed her to prescribe what I wanted. That's where this site has come in and helped, I took matters into my own hands. I take what I need when, because I know my body the best. It's so frustrating. Yes, doctors are so scared of their licenses being revoked. I think so often it's not about the care of the patient any longer. I kind of thought that some doctors get kick backs from pharmaceutical companies to prescribe meds all willy-nilly (yes, I just said that! ) but, I'm starting to think that docs are getting nervous to prescribe things that are potentially addictive more and more.

I understand the social anxiety. Sometimes I have leaving my house, sometimes I hate taking my kids to playdates because I have to talk to other people, I have telephone anxiety, I hate answering the phone because I stress out about not knowing what to say...I even have forum anxiety too because I don't know what to write...it's easier to hide behind a computer though, that's for sure.

Sorry for any typos, my kids are screaming at me to feed them! haha!

[Noonehere]

I have a similar situation. After having a baby (and reluctantly, albeit necessary, getting off all medication during pregnancy), I went to a new doctor to start up my schedule of meds again. This included antidepressants, anti-anxiety, ADD and insomnia. It worked well for me as a whole. The new doctor wanted to start me on tiny doses of the antidepressants and refused to even consider to put me on the other meds. Even though I told her it is what I was prescribed for years before the pregnancy. It worked well. So, I just went along with her. After a couple months of upping the dosage, she "allowed" me to be put on ADD medication which helps with the side effects of the antidepressant. It was still a very low dose. She said all the meds were "addictive". Well....sure! But, I am fine and function BETTER on them. I am a better mother, wife and friend on them. We all know what a PITA it is to change doctors so I'm hanging in there a bit longer, but I am thinking about switching. But, starting over with new doctors is so hard and time consuming. I feel like I was a guinea pig and she wanted to be the one to find the cure of alllllllll my problems. She didn't like me telling her I had a solution that worked, that I just needed her to prescribe what I wanted. That's where this site has come in and helped, I took matters into my own hands. I take what I need when, because I know my body the best. It's so frustrating. Yes, doctors are so scared of their licenses being revoked. I think so often it's not about the care of the patient any longer. I kind of thought that some doctors get kick backs from pharmaceutical companies to prescribe meds all willy-nilly (yes, I just said that!  ) but, I'm starting to think that docs are getting nervous to prescribe things that are potentially addictive more and more.

I understand the social anxiety. Sometimes I have leaving my house, sometimes I hate taking my kids to playdates because I have to talk to other people, I have telephone anxiety, I hate answering the phone because I stress out about not knowing what to say...I even have forum anxiety too because I don't know what to write...it's easier to hide behind a computer though, that's for sure.

Sorry for any typos, my kids are screaming at me to feed them! haha!

Sounds like we are in very similar boats! You are right it is like guinea pigs. That's why they call it a practice they are practicing on you.

[Cricket]

I have a similar situation. After having a baby (and reluctantly, albeit necessary, getting off all medication during pregnancy), I went to a new doctor to start up my schedule of meds again. This included antidepressants, anti-anxiety, ADD and insomnia. It worked well for me as a whole. The new doctor wanted to start me on tiny doses of the antidepressants and refused to even consider to put me on the other meds. Even though I told her it is what I was prescribed for years before the pregnancy. It worked well. So, I just went along with her. After a couple months of upping the dosage, she "allowed" me to be put on ADD medication which helps with the side effects of the antidepressant. It was still a very low dose. She said all the meds were "addictive". Well....sure! But, I am fine and function BETTER on them. I am a better mother, wife and friend on them. We all know what a PITA it is to change doctors so I'm hanging in there a bit longer, but I am thinking about switching. But, starting over with new doctors is so hard and time consuming. I feel like I was a guinea pig and she wanted to be the one to find the cure of alllllllll my problems. She didn't like me telling her I had a solution that worked, that I just needed her to prescribe what I wanted. That's where this site has come in and helped, I took matters into my own hands. I take what I need when, because I know my body the best. It's so frustrating. Yes, doctors are so scared of their licenses being revoked. I think so often it's not about the care of the patient any longer. I kind of thought that some doctors get kick backs from pharmaceutical companies to prescribe meds all willy-nilly (yes, I just said that!  ) but, I'm starting to think that docs are getting nervous to prescribe things that are potentially addictive more and more.

I understand the social anxiety. Sometimes I have leaving my house, sometimes I hate taking my kids to playdates because I have to talk to other people, I have telephone anxiety, I hate answering the phone because I stress out about not knowing what to say...I even have forum anxiety too because I don't know what to write...it's easier to hide behind a computer though, that's for sure.

Sorry for any typos, my kids are screaming at me to feed them! haha!

Sounds like we are in very similar boats! You are right it is like guinea pigs. That's why they call it a practice they are practicing on you.

Medicine is no longer about helping the patient. It's now all about control.
Doc's prescribe meds to you for yrs. and get you dependent on them and then just cut you off outta the blue. Now they control you and make you jump thru hoops to try and get back to what helps you.
Doctors are also being controlled by Big Pharma and the government. They now have to toe the line and do as they're commanded to do even tho they know what needs to be done for their patients.

Big Pharma, which is just another government run entity with mega power, controls the doctors which trickles down to us. The powers that be now have control over all of us and can pretty much make us do whatever they want. Control is what they're all about and want to control EVERYTHING in our lives. They're doin' a great job at it too.

I've said it a thousand times, government needs to keep their noses outta medical decisions. Let doctors do what they've trained for and stop threatening them. Freedom in this country is now a thing of the past and when you've lost it, we'll never get it back. This is the New World Order at it's finest and it sucks, but we allowed them to do this to us by doin' nothin' about it. It wasn't like we were not warned of these things coming. It's just that too many people never thought this could happen in this country. So here we are and it will only get worse until people stop burying their heads in the sand and FINALLY stand up and fight back. Things are movin' in a very bad direction and will continue to until enough people "wake up" and demand our lives back. It won't be pretty or easy, but has to be done.

God help us all before it's too late, if not already.

Cricket

[mr nobody]

CDGD you hit it square on the head. Between docs being afraid of their licenses, having unbelievable egos believing they can control and "fix" patients, and pharma kickbacks, we in general don't stand a chance.  
Medicare has made a little dent in the kickback part ie I don't see as many docs putting everyone on the same new drug like 20 years ago. But the younger docs are so damn textbook in their thinking, and have it drilled in their heads that they will lose their license if they give anything scheduled.
Having an educated, compassionate doc is key, and starting the process over to find a new one is more than a PITA.  
I am going to start a thread on this later, but I'm going through the "new doctor" routine now because I am losing mine to Concierge Medicine.  Basically if I want to keep her as my PCP, I have to keep my expensive PPO that she accepts AND pay a membership fee of $2,000 per year that would give me access to her 24/7.

Days of docs practicing thoughtful medicine is pretty much over.  Now it is CYA and your files and billings belong to big govt + big pharma.  Docs now are happy to make it through the day.  Want to see a specialist about a new physical problem and I know if I need surgery...god help me wait times without special insurance is unbelievable.

[Cricket]

CDGD you hit it square on the head. Between docs being afraid of their licenses, having unbelievable egos believing they can control and "fix" patients, and pharma kickbacks, we in general don't stand a chance.  
Medicare has made a little dent in the kickback part ie I don't see as many docs putting everyone on the same new drug like 20 years ago. But the younger docs are so damn textbook in their thinking, and have it drilled in their heads that they will lose their license if they give anything scheduled.
Having an educated, compassionate doc is key, and starting the process over to find a new one is more than a PITA.  
I am going to start a thread on this later, but I'm going through the "new doctor" routine now because I am losing mine to Concierge Medicine.  Basically if I want to keep her as my PCP, I have to keep my expensive PPO that she accepts AND pay a membership fee of $2,000 per year that would give me access to her 24/7.

Days of docs practicing thoughtful medicine is pretty much over.  Now it is CYA and your files and billings belong to big govt + big pharma.  Docs now are happy to make it through the day.  Want to see a specialist about a new physical problem and I know if I need surgery...god help me wait times without special insurance is unbelievable.

It's sad to say, but Big Pharma is not about keepin' people healthy. They make no money off of healthy people.
They feed us meds that cause more problems than they help and end up with a customer for life.

Everything in life today is about money and control. THAT is the sickness that needs to change. Is it any wonder why we're all sufferin' mentally and physically? It's exactly what they want.

Cricket

[Noonehere]

I have a similar situation. After having a baby (and reluctantly, albeit necessary, getting off all medication during pregnancy), I went to a new doctor to start up my schedule of meds again. This included antidepressants, anti-anxiety, ADD and insomnia. It worked well for me as a whole. The new doctor wanted to start me on tiny doses of the antidepressants and refused to even consider to put me on the other meds. Even though I told her it is what I was prescribed for years before the pregnancy. It worked well. So, I just went along with her. After a couple months of upping the dosage, she "allowed" me to be put on ADD medication which helps with the side effects of the antidepressant. It was still a very low dose. She said all the meds were "addictive". Well....sure! But, I am fine and function BETTER on them. I am a better mother, wife and friend on them. We all know what a PITA it is to change doctors so I'm hanging in there a bit longer, but I am thinking about switching. But, starting over with new doctors is so hard and time consuming. I feel like I was a guinea pig and she wanted to be the one to find the cure of alllllllll my problems. She didn't like me telling her I had a solution that worked, that I just needed her to prescribe what I wanted. That's where this site has come in and helped, I took matters into my own hands. I take what I need when, because I know my body the best. It's so frustrating. Yes, doctors are so scared of their licenses being revoked. I think so often it's not about the care of the patient any longer. I kind of thought that some doctors get kick backs from pharmaceutical companies to prescribe meds all willy-nilly (yes, I just said that!  ) but, I'm starting to think that docs are getting nervous to prescribe things that are potentially addictive more and more.

I understand the social anxiety. Sometimes I have leaving my house, sometimes I hate taking my kids to playdates because I have to talk to other people, I have telephone anxiety, I hate answering the phone because I stress out about not knowing what to say...I even have forum anxiety too because I don't know what to write...it's easier to hide behind a computer though, that's for sure.

Sorry for any typos, my kids are screaming at me to feed them! haha!

Sounds like we are in very similar boats! You are right it is like guinea pigs. That's why they call it a practice they are practicing on you.

Medicine is no longer about helping the patient. It's now all about control.
Doc's prescribe meds to you for yrs. and get you dependent on them and then just cut you off outta the blue. Now they control you and make you jump thru hoops to try and get back to what helps you.
Doctors are also being controlled by Big Pharma and the government. They now have to toe the line and do as they're commanded to do even tho they know what needs to be done for their patients.

Big Pharma, which is just another government run entity with mega power, controls the doctors which trickles down to us. The powers that be now have control over all of us and can pretty much make us do whatever they want. Control is what they're all about and want to control EVERYTHING in our lives. They're doin' a great job at it too.

I've said it a thousand times, government needs to keep their noses outta medical decisions. Let doctors do what they've trained for and stop threatening them. Freedom in this country is now a thing of the past and when you've lost it, we'll never get it back. This is the New World Order at it's finest and it sucks, but we allowed them to do this to us by doin' nothin' about it. It wasn't like we were not warned of these things coming. It's just that too many people never thought this could happen in this country. So here we are and it will only get worse until people stop burying their heads in the sand and FINALLY stand up and fight back. Things are movin' in a very bad direction and will continue to until enough people "wake up" and demand our lives back. It won't be pretty or easy, but has to be done.

God help us all before it's too late, if not already.    

Cricket

Exactly! Its all about control. Let see just how far we can pull this jack ass without a rope.

[cmdline]

well saying big pharma controls us or government is contradicting statement.since governments ban meds,pharma makes them ,theres no profit if you cant sell it.

Think its safer to say there is massive corruption issue.Since if we looked back at history first meds released barely went trough any rigorous testing since back then quality or safety control wasn't even a thing.But years passed and now we have FDA and dozens other agencies and government bodies even single people who basically can have a single say in whats good or bad for us.

That aside when it comes to anxiety meds or painkillers we arent living back in 60-70s where people trusted anyone blindly,nowadays with single click you can get more info then any doc can provide on meds,thus most people just turn blind eye , since as saying goes if its too good to be true most likely it is, as in you cant have any medicine that will do wonders and expect that it wont come with its own price attached.